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06 Jun 2008, 1:19 pm

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when actual autistics try to debate anything on their message boards, they are banned.

O RLY?

I've debated issues on there since November. I haven't been banned.

Same goes for some others. The only people who get banned actually deserve it.


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06 Jun 2008, 5:08 pm

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I dislike Autism Speaks because of what others have said, but because they also support the unsafe practice of tying young children on the spectrum to dogs.


This is new to me. What do you mean?


On one of their pages I found several links to the pages of service dog organizations that 'tether' young children to dogs. This is very unsafe for both the dog and the child.



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06 Jun 2008, 5:30 pm

The problem with Autism Speaks has 3 main causes:

1. They are called "Autism Speaks" yet membership and leadership is mainly comprised of family members of severely autistic children. Thus their very name is seen as misleading

2. The vast majority of their funding goes to fund cure research. And this cure research mainly focuses around identifying the genes associated with autism with the purpose of creating a prenatal screening test, which would effectively cause a genocide of autistic individuals, while doing nothing to help people who are already autistic.

3. They push a purely tragic picture of autism. Completely ignoring the high functioning end of the spectrum, they certainly don't talk about people like me where my symptoms boil down to just a few more quirks then the average person.


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20 Jul 2008, 1:33 am

Were these the people that were advocating shock therapy? I heard there were people that believe that giving electric shocks to autistic kids would cure something, I hate those Nazi's


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20 Jul 2008, 7:02 am

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I dont't understand why anybody would choose to remain the way we are.


It depends on where you are on the spectrum. I feel that the ability I have to focus intently on my areas of interest offsets the sensory overload and other issues I may face. If I had a magic pill to take that would get rid of my sensory issues - would it leave me with the advantages? Or would it change me as a whole?

All things considered, I'd rather be me.


I don't think it depends on where someone is on the spectrum. A person without many impairments may really strive for a cure and someone whom other autistic people would view as very miserable because they're seen as 'low functioning' might say they don't want a cure. Their reasons for not wanting a cure are as good as the ones from the barely impaired person who wants a cure.

Before the law, that's different of course. People demand that those who need some kind of assistance declare themselves as leading a bad life because of the need of help, but that does not mean the ones in question personally agree with it.


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20 Jul 2008, 9:31 am

Sora wrote:
I don't think it depends on where someone is on the spectrum. A person without many impairments may really strive for a cure and someone whom other autistic people would view as very miserable because they're seen as 'low functioning' might say they don't want a cure. Their reasons for not wanting a cure are as good as the ones from the barely impaired person who wants a cure.

Before the law, that's different of course. People demand that those who need some kind of assistance declare themselves as leading a bad life because of the need of help, but that does not mean the ones in question personally agree with it.


QFT. Boy do I get sick of explaining that. (Especially people who claim they desperately want a cure because of what severe problems they have, where in all the measures given their problems are less severe than mine.)


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20 Jul 2008, 9:35 am

KingdomOfRats wrote:
The_Cucumber wrote:
The problem with Autism Speaks has 3 main causes:

1. They are called "Autism Speaks" yet membership and leadership is mainly comprised of family members of severely autistic children. Thus their very name is seen as misleading

2. The vast majority of their funding goes to fund cure research. And this cure research mainly focuses around identifying the genes associated with autism with the purpose of creating a prenatal screening test, which would effectively cause a genocide of autistic individuals, while doing nothing to help people who are already autistic.

3. They push a purely tragic picture of autism. Completely ignoring the high functioning end of the spectrum, they certainly don't talk about people like me where my symptoms boil down to just a few more quirks then the average person.

they are biased and ignoring of,towards adults who come under the 'severe' end as well,they try to push beliefs to others that LFAs can never use the internet,communicate in any form or type,and any users on their forum who are LFA are non existant because are using a forum,its not just aspies and HFAs they're ignorant of,its adult LFAs to.


Yeah the only regular user on their forum who's been labeled LFA is someone who trashes and slanders other people she encounters online who've been labeled LFA (including at least two from this forum - me and age1600). Go figure.


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20 Jul 2008, 2:30 pm

anbuend wrote:
QFT. Boy do I get sick of explaining that. (Especially people who claim they desperately want a cure because of what severe problems they have, where in all the measures given their problems are less severe than mine.)


Well, some false concepts, PEOPLE!! !
When you speak of cure, you are not really talking about cure. You mean to change brain elements which make you AS, and move this elements into NT form. It is not curing, it is converting your moods and way of life. You become Somebody else, maybe an stranger for yourself, in your samebody.(did you see the film "TWO FACES" OF NICOLAS CAGE and JOHN TRAVOLTA, hehe THAT IS a idea of moving personalities, the mafia-man took(changed) his face into the police-chief's, and everybody, friends, family where confusing about it, and police-chief got the face of somebody in prison, )

CURE AS=AS_Moved_into_something_new_you_do_not_know_what_is_it_going_into. Maybe any sort of Frankestein. Yeahh!!

If you get cured anbuend you will not be anymore anbuend but you will become dneubna, and THE_CUCUMBER=REBMUCUC_EHT_CURED.

Do you know really, what you are talking about? CURED? It is a total nonsense.
Why do they not cure NTs, AND convert them into AS, so we can speak same language.

We have freedoom to express our own AS personality how it is, how it becomes and how it will be.
They wanted also to cure Homosexual? Or black people because of the skin colour?
We were speaking about that in this thread
How to prevent your children NT Birth using embryo gene analisis:

By the way, I am not for pills, if possible, as they change also your personality, I have seen some boys and ppl got into a new kind of ZOMBIES full pills to relax. (IF POSSIBLE, I know some ppl need for sure)
If we were living thousands of years without AS-pills, why do we need them nowadays???? Some natural solution... may be
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