hate speech against autistics on the internet?

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Could you please post a link to this particular post on Autism Speaks, I would like to see in what context this was written.
I smell eugenics (Read: preemptive euthanasia) in that word "parentalism"...

I remember someone thinking that Heinlein was autistic after reading The Moon is a Harsh Mistress; lol (they didn't like how the characters were, they were considered "flat" )

"advocac"? "goodnes"?

They can't spell simple words and yet they think they're going to successfully annihilate us? Huh . . .

I'm sure that if it ever came to war, our superior intellect would be our guide to victory. It would be like Lelouch Lamperouge employing tactical superiority to wipe out an entire squadron of Britannian Knights... and winning a game of online chess at the same time.

That wasn't hate speech. It was in response to a joke of a ficticious disease...the parental spectrum.

http://www.autismspeaks.org/community/f ... 544&page=3

Then it turns into comments that I'm not sure is joking or not.

Anything having to do with Autism Speaks makes me feel extremely sad. I can only hope that in the upcoming years there will be no Autism Speaks.

I read studies that link vaccination with Autism and other Autism refutes the vaccination theories ...but none prove the other wrong , even the studies that refutes vaccination conclude that more research should be done about the vaccination , one of them might be wrong or maybe both of them are correct (maybe vaccin trigger some autism genes) . Any scientific theory remains correct till it's proven otherwise .

I am not sure , but I heard that mercury in vaccins were stopped in 2004 in US, if there was a ZERO link between vaccinations and SOME autism cases , if mercury in vaccination is really that harmless then why the pharmacy industry stopped it?

Besides, there are hunderds of parent's testimonies saying that their children were used to speak few words and they stopped since they took the vaccinations, are all these cases concidental? Maybe ...maybe not!

Besides, that Pharameutical industry have more benifit in support the "anti-cure" supporters, so maybe that's why there are more studies that refutes vaccination theory.


My whole point, is Autism speaks have their cause and their beliefs and most of you here have their cause and their beliefs but none side has a total scientific proof that it's correct.

Besides, maybe some LFA and HFAs WANT to be cured.

So stop doing crusade an curist sites.

Have you spoken to curists? The amount of hatred they display, especially once they know you're an "autistic fraud" (aspie).
These people are, in my opinion, monsters. Barbarians.
The reason pharmacutical companies and scientists are pretending to consider mercury: PR and lawsuits.
They just want these violent imbeciles to be silenced. Not going to happen; not unless we gas a lot of the bastards.
One person I spoke to, whose autistic child was no worse off than many autistics I've met, no worse off then my brother, was talking about "euthanasia". These people are... terrifying, in that they do such wrong, such evil - yet thoroughly believe their actions are good and just.

Other way around. Any scientific theory is false until proven otherwise.


To appease obnoxious conspiracy theorists who wouldn't shut the hell up. BTW, these same folks will claim that there's still mercury in the shots.


Perhaps because the onset of observable autistic traits is usually a little after one year of age (including for unvaccinated children) and there's routinely a round of vaccines at about one year of age?


Feel free to research where Wakefield got the funding for his research suggesting a link between vaccines and autism.


You can't cure something that's not a disease. Your argument is identical to the people who claimed that some gay people WANTED to be cured.

A scientific theory is false until is supported by enough evidences.
Any scientific theory or hypothesis that supported by many evidences is true till it's proven false , that's the basic of scientific method.
I am talking about 2 theories supported by evidences.







C'mon, since when the pharmaceutical industry were that sensitives and humanists or even listen to conspiracy theorists ? They want so such a huge precautions unless if they doubt in something. And maybe something else in vaccines causing autism , there was even a suggestion that flu vaccines and even some food may cause autism during embryonic stage





http://autism.about.com/od/vaccinesanda ... ouse_2.htm







Maybe ...maybe no..... but many parents claim that their babies were used to have some vocab and they stopped and turned to non-verbal auties after vaccination.





Give me a link





It's a disorder and true most neural disorders can't be cured but you can't just refuse the cure possibility just because you believe that it can't be cured with no scientific basis.

Btw, I am not arguing whether autism can be cured and can't be cure ....I am arguing that what's causing it is still UNKNOWN.
http://autism.about.com/od/whatisautism ... causes.htm

It might be caused by vaccines but can't be cured or it can be caused by genes but can cured , or it can be caused by both genes and environmental factors but can't be cure , maybe it's the beginning of a sub-species (yet there is no evolutionary advantage of being social inept while social skills are more and more crucial to success in work and dating)....etc .etc ...etc there are too much combination of possibilities.

The problem that you want to believe that autism is a 'bless' or 'difference' and that we are just born different .....nice faith really but I can't follow faiths blindly

Hey, if we're damaged because of a lack of empathy and emotion, why haven't we gutted these "Autism Reeks" guys?

Anyway, I find my focus and determination, lack of pain sensitivity, generally easily-aroused Anger (<---EMOTION<---), and photographic memory to be quite useful, especially in maintaining control over a situation, beating the sorry pants off of a completely NT "brain-damaged" (in the general sense, not a real brain-damaged person, because they aren't NT.) gangbanger, and staying a step ahead of nearly every kid in my pop. 30,000 town. I find THEM to be undeveloped. Most people my age still think shouting "I love you" to a random stranger on the street is funny.

Because the paranoia and quackery was causing many parents to refuse to vaccinate their children, resulting in outbreaks of easily preventable illnesses.

Initially it was claimed that MMR causes autism, later the claims were that it was mercury (which MMR never contained). The vaccine nuts will continue making those claims, and simply find a new chemical bogeyman as time goes on.


Wakefield's study was funded by a law firm that was trying to sue vaccine manufacturers. Conflict of interest perhaps?


Homosexuality was listed as a disorder for a long time. I'm not claiming it can't be cured "with no scientific basis" I am saying that, by definition, it can not be cured if it is not a disease. Perhaps it would be possible someday to change autistics into neurotypicals. That wouldn't be curing them, it would be changing them. Just as making gay people straight (if it were possible) wouldn't cure them, because they aren't diseased.


Not necessarily a blessing, no, but it is a difference. The genetic link with autism seems to be almost undeniable, and the vaccine conspiracy theory has next to no evidence for it.

I don't disagree with what you have said other than there are plenty of highly educated bigots. My uncle has a masters degree and he is the biggest bigot I know. I live in South Carolina so that is saying a-lot.

Call me a coward, but I think it's time we fell silent for a while. Like it or not, the most popular view of Asperger's is that of a fake disorder, including other forms of autism (no thanks to those who self-diagnose, as a way to excuse themselves). This attitude within a few years will be present in mainstream society, affecting our employment and ability to form friendships. Is either of those, at least the first, worth throwing away trying to prove them wrong?

This autism rights movement, founded on good intentions, has turned the populace against us; and we are beginning to wear out their patience. Many of us here can live on our own; don't you think it's just better to omit that we are autistic? Better to be seen as eccentric than broken or pathetic.

My brother is autistic and incapable of living on his own. Does that make him broken and pathetic? Autistic rights are not only for hfa, but to try and prevent abuse of lfa, too. Just rolling over and giving up invites back the days of lobotomy, almost.

Lemme put it this way:
You can't trust an organization created and lead by the ideals of a woman who was going to drive her car, containing herself and her autistic daughter, off a bridge, mainly to kill the autistic daughter.