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20 Aug 2008, 5:01 pm

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I don't think it's nice to make money off of an illness. This guy claims he cured himself?

So okay what's going to happen is...people are going to defend those who come across as fake and then whine in another subject about misrepresentation of autism?? Some movement.

Amanda Baggs is thought of as a hoax for several reasons.

She talked growing up and didn't ahve speech delays.
Potty trained on time
Went to gifted college to study psychology
She didn't stim when other knew her at that time
She spoke and had friends...even an autistic girl she wrote about and admired

When it all changed for her is after Amanda took LSD for months and smoked weed. After that she was found digging in the ground looking for mind control devices. The police found her and took her to an institution. She was diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenic. She was also diagnosed with multiple personality disorder. She wrote about this stuff online and she even had a different style of writing. Similar BUT now she writes alot like a lady named Droopy.

Amanda also has a lawyer that follows her around online. If anyone brings up this subject, the lawyer comes in. Sound strange?

So you guys are going to have alot of fun in the future once you run off all auties to make room for those suffering from munchausen syndrome.

Droopy was apart of aspies for freedom a while ago and liked the concept of neurodiversity but aspies for freedom banned her. This is why she doesn't like aspies. If she would have made it to wrong planet at a good time then she would probably be different.

No I'm not droopy. Nor am I her spokesmodel. She just makes sense with her observations. She had the right too after examining all evidence. She was picked on for it but that takes more courage than suffering from munchausen syndrome.

What about auties that really would like a community to join? This place seems to cater more towards those who just aren't quite sure if they have it or not or who have the wrong diagnosis.

go to you tube, do a search for droopy autism.

She's being real and honest. She's not this upset for no good reason.



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20 Aug 2008, 9:44 pm

He seems to me like he could very likely be on the spectrum.



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20 Aug 2008, 9:48 pm

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm..............

Why can't Droopy join now?



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20 Aug 2008, 10:14 pm

In answer to a question a bunch of posts back ...

There might be money to be made in the sense that a communicative, high functioning or "cured" autistic can provide a window into the condition for desperate parents and others eager to understand the "hot" condition of the moment. Of course, they have to express it in a way that NT's understand. If they can, they can find an eager audience for books, lectures, ideas, etc.

But it seems to become a double-edged sword, because being able to express what is going on inside, in a way NT's can relate to, also exposes one to charges of not really being autistic. Honestly, I think its a tough call to make, and not it's going to come out fair. These voices are needed, but having that need also means that some may respond who are faking it.

Not that I think there is a lot of money in it. Some may just like the attention. But most seem to just want people to understand, so that future children like them can have a better childhood. Perhaps one way to evaluate how much attention to give a speaker is to look at what his goals are.

But I'm not one for publicly calling anyone out. Providing perspective is good. Information to help people decide for themselves.


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21 Aug 2008, 12:33 am

Averick wrote:
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm..............

Why can't Droopy join now?



She has in the past but got banned after three posts. I dunno why.



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21 Aug 2008, 4:35 am

ShellyH wrote:
I don't think it's nice to make money off of an illness. This guy claims he cured himself?

So okay what's going to happen is...people are going to defend those who come across as fake and then whine in another subject about misrepresentation of autism?? Some movement.

Amanda Baggs is thought of as a hoax for several reasons.

She talked growing up and didn't ahve speech delays.
Potty trained on time
Went to gifted college to study psychology
She didn't stim when other knew her at that time
She spoke and had friends...even an autistic girl she wrote about and admired

When it all changed for her is after Amanda took LSD for months and smoked weed. After that she was found digging in the ground looking for mind control devices. The police found her and took her to an institution. She was diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenic. She was also diagnosed with multiple personality disorder. She wrote about this stuff online and she even had a different style of writing. Similar BUT now she writes alot like a lady named Droopy.

Amanda also has a lawyer that follows her around online. If anyone brings up this subject, the lawyer comes in. Sound strange?

So you guys are going to have alot of fun in the future once you run off all auties to make room for those suffering from munchausen syndrome.

Droopy was apart of aspies for freedom a while ago and liked the concept of neurodiversity but aspies for freedom banned her. This is why she doesn't like aspies. If she would have made it to wrong planet at a good time then she would probably be different.

No I'm not droopy. Nor am I her spokesmodel. She just makes sense with her observations. She had the right too after examining all evidence. She was picked on for it but that takes more courage than suffering from munchausen syndrome.

What about auties that really would like a community to join? This place seems to cater more towards those who just aren't quite sure if they have it or not or who have the wrong diagnosis.

go to you tube, do a search for droopy autism.

She's being real and honest. She's not this upset for no good reason.


Wait, what?! he claims he cured himself?! ok, now he's really just trying to make money off of it!! !!



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21 Aug 2008, 9:44 am

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Amanda also has a lawyer that follows her around online. If anyone brings up this subject, the lawyer comes in. Sound strange?


I don't see any lawyer here in this thread yet. Do you? :shrug:
She doesn't have an 'agent' either, or publicity photos.

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She's being real and honest. She's not this upset for no good reason.


No, she just thinks that getting butthurt on a forum is justification to ruin someone elses reputation. Great F***buddy you have there. Sounds like she's already did you over HARD.

WTF is going on around here???? Is there some sort of celebrity obsession thing for Ms Baggs going on???
Questioning her diagnosis you can no longer claim it as opinion anymore - IT'S LIBEL. I swear if I was a lawyer, I'd be representing her PRO-BONO.



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21 Aug 2008, 11:27 am

I am not a fan of the "cure" mentality, to put it mildly, but please stop slandering the young man in the video without knowing him or the whole story. From my interactions with him, he does not call himself cured. People here have no idea what his motivations are, and to insinuate otherwise is irresponsible.



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21 Aug 2008, 12:41 pm

I'm skeptical. I have the right to be regarding the guy. Now maybe what he means by curing himself (it's in another one of his videos) is getting rid of alot of traits. I just don't like scammers and naturally go on defense when it comes to those seeking a profit.

Also Amanda Baggs can SING?? 8O WTF?

Is this her singing or is this one of the communicators? It's interesting.

http://www.livevideo.com/video/4C44ABC5 ... of-us.aspx


Alright, can someone please explain this one to me? Amanda, explain how you can sing but cannot speak.

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Amanda wrote:

I actually meant by it, the same thing you mean when you talk about false admiration in some of your videos. Not people who genuinely are interested in me as a person, but the sort of thing where people are just going "Wow how amazing you are." I do more...have a bit of a sarcastic way of presenting it in this song (which is my own voice, not a computer one), but bitterness isn't generally one of my problems.



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21 Aug 2008, 2:15 pm

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I'm skeptical. I have the right to be regarding the guy. Now maybe what he means by curing himself (it's in another one ortff his videos) is getting rid of alot of traits. I just don't like scammers and naturally go on defense when it comes to those seeking a profit.


Then I assume you feel similarly about all of the many others who have written books and/or spoken at conferences because they're autistic. Temple Grandin, Donna Williams, Liane Holliday Wiley--who wasn't professionally diagnosed when she wrote her first book, BTW--Stephen Shore, John Elder Robison...need I go on? I'd say all have profitted significantly more than the person you are making some rather nasty insinuations against. He does not have a book deal or an agent, I believe. He is not a nationally or even a regionally-known figure. He lives with his father.

I'd say that what he means by "curing himself" is exactly what you say--diminishing a lot of traits. For whatever diagnostic categories are worth, he was diagnosed with autism (not Asperger's) as a child.

You have the "right" to be skeptical all you like, but this is public slander of both this man and Amanda--who is a member of this board. If any moderator is reading this, I'd like to suggest this thread be closed.



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21 Aug 2008, 2:27 pm

Personally I am not generally concerned by people falsely claiming to be 'on the spectrum' - I can't imagine what a neurotypical person would gain from it. What does concern me is when paranoid and aggressive individuals claim to be autistic and then attack the autistic community: they can be paranoid anywhere - but we can only find a sense of community here.

So what I really object to is harmful behaviour that damages our community.


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21 Aug 2008, 7:54 pm

I saw the video by Amanda Baggs and her mouth wasn't moving. I do not know who was singing the song.



People like Catspurr make it the reason why I would never make videos about me talking about my condition and posting them online. Last thing I need is the "You don't have AS" crap or "You aren't on the spectrum." God just because they are sitting in front of the webcam talking doesn't make them un autistic because they aren't showing any signs or they seem normal. Well we aren't going to show signs every single minute or every single hour. Besides there was nothing there in the video to trigger the guy's symptoms. I didn't see his other videos yet though.



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21 Aug 2008, 8:06 pm

aspies trying to read people

that's hilarious :lol:



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22 Aug 2008, 6:04 am

Kilroy wrote:
aspies trying to read people

that's hilarious :lol:


It is indeed.


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22 Aug 2008, 11:58 am

Spokane_Girl wrote:
Averick wrote:
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm..............

Why can't Droopy join now?



She has in the past but got banned after three posts. I dunno why.

She told me personally that she came to more or less attack Amanda. Droopy is obsessed with her, and not in the nice way.


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22 Aug 2008, 4:43 pm

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Spokane_Girl wrote:
Averick wrote:
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm..............

Why can't Droopy join now?



She has in the past but got banned after three posts. I dunno why.

She told me personally that she came to more or less attack Amanda. Droopy is obsessed with her, and not in the nice way.


That's sad. Why couldn't she just it go?