Anyone here who also fear neurotypicals?

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I am not quite sure of what your message is, Bob. Are you saying singling out NTs as the demonized 'other' is wrong, or are you saying when you grow up you have no fear.

Merle

Well that all people need to get over this unfounded fear of normal people,
it sort of makes us look childish, and makes people with AS look bad.
I know alot of so called NT's with more problems then me, they have all go
though the same crap we do, some deal with it better then other NT's.
I just don't understand why anyone who isn't on the spectrum be vilified as
the cause of all our problems, they aren't all the boogie man being portrayed
here on WP or other AS sites.

Certainly I am a cat trapped in a human body. I get along with over 99% of cats and with under 1% of people. Go figure. I would also consider the possibility of being alien.

oh, well, I wish all the human beings that are into war and killing people would get over it too, because it makes all the rest of humanity look bad!


Merle

There may not be a genuine "normal," but there's so much importance put on it by most of the world that it doesn't even matter whether normalcy exists or not anymore. Unfortunately, with a lot of people trying to shove conformity down the throats of whoever dares to be so much as inconsequentially different from others, it's still a relevant concept in and of itself, regardless there exists or ever existed a person who fits all the criteria, even for those who don't fit into it. It's not to say that the idea of normal SHOULD exist as it does, but in order to fully deconstruct it, or at least make it more inclusive, we have to recognize it at least as a widespread idea important to many.

Aside from that, I would agree that there's so many people in everyone's lives are NT that it would be missing out on a lot, if nothing else, to condemn or fear them all.

If you're afraid of them and they make up over 99% of the population, well, to be honest, you're pretty screwed.



Look on the bright side, the human beings that are into war and killing people have a tendency to kill each other off. To think that some people say violence never solves anything.

Personally, I tire of hearing all this campaigning against so called "neurotypicals." There are plenty of really cool ones once you try hard enough to mingle with them. Had one as a friend who was a complete badass, but at the same time was one of the coolest and caring people I've ever met. Always tried to bring me into his social group, and trying to help me out with whatever problems were getting me down. I once tried to tell him the reason why I might've seemed different (having AS), but he simply didn't care, wouldn't even listen. Even told me I was like family to him.

My three friends are NT. I like them. I like them a lot. So no, I am not scared of NTs.

I do have a disdain for idiocy, but anyone can be an idiot regardless of their neurology. I'm often indulging in idiocy, though I try not to.

To clarify, for my own self - I do like most/many people, Autist & NT both. Certainly, ASD people are in the minority. There are plenty of NTs whom I love and respect, very much - admire and who contribute. So I don't mean to insinuate I'm 'NT bashing!'

The issue I think that is being addressed: Those with ASD (= Autistic Spectrum Disorders) do have a social disadvantage; this is a criteria for ASD! For me, I am very trusting, tend to be naive, shy, etc. There are plenty of us in this category on WP.

NTs are the dominant form - that's a given. Some (not all) can misinterpret ASD behavior and I'm not really equipped to deal with those who tease, bully, discriminate, etc. But ASD people notorioriously can be very vulnerable - I've been hurt plenty of times. So I can be leery.

In reality, I do not proceed with my ongoings thinking that I'm a HFA/Aspie amongst 'them' at all! One's neurology shouldn't categorize them and I just don't think in this way.

I don't believe in the N.T concept. It's based on a pseudo cultural fallacy of mind differences manifested of mostly unneeded and divisional social discourses.

No. In neuroscience & elsewhere related, as common knowledge (I'm a neuroscientist) this term, Neurotypical (NT) just means one who is not autistic.

In day to day life, in how it is used, as a person with autism myself, I feel it's socially destructive and a waste of energy. A social mechanism of social separation in the grand union of minds and human kind. It is by far the most ridiculous and self-destructive connotations of the separation of the minds and reality which manifests as a falsity most of the time. I believe that most will fair better without it and live happier lives.

Thanks Bob, just what I was thinking.

I would also like to ask people in general if they equate fear with hate, and if so why? Surely a better, more mature way to deal with fear is to learn more about the thing that scares you. Knowledge is power, and both of these will combat fear. Fear is poisonous, take steps to overcome it.

Not to blow my own trumpet (apologies for the metaphor, I don't really play the trumpet..) It can be useful to have NTs on your side too - my brother has been seeking a diagnosis since August and I have been working my arse off to support him in this, write letters for him, arranged appointments, and speak to people when he has not felt confident to do so.

He tells me I am currently his only conduit to explain the parts of the NT world that he finds frustrating, irritating, pointless and stupid. Since I've been doing this he's been noticeably calmer & more confident.

He is also as of yesterday proudly & officially an aspie


Fair enough if you get or like don't "us", but I don't think it's a particularly productive or helpful to generalise without giving constructive reasoning.

^ ditto. Whilst ASD disorders are 'real' and w/ manifestations, we are all human. I try to not be nervous/anxious around NTs (some are very dominant and can be scary) but I don't think in terms of 'us' & 'them.' And there are many NTs I do like, and I don't consider one's neuropathy as a factor. I do need to be cautious since some NTs can hurt....hence I'm leery at times.

Very sensible, some people are bastards but I don't think it's a trait exclusive to, or compulsory for, NTs!

I still do not like the idea of teaching a child he or she is aspie and the other N.T. The compartmentalization instead of the normalization of the self-being and without group-type classifications is I do not think healthy. As a term of reference "typicality" is to generalized and broadened whereas aspie is as well but inferring to a form of autism. I think that instead of focusing on differences other then to cope and understand oneself that the generic quality of human should empower people with autism who do subject themselves to social and developmental compartmentalization should lay waste of the terminology all together. It's really when you think about it, simply the manifestation of advocacy and survival theory.

However in common place for the sake of normalcy and mental health I believe the absents of the terminology is best. That's why I've never supported it and will always think unkindly about it. I think humans understand impairment and or difference with context to autism but creating psychosocial and pseudo-social classifications in a social context as even by very definition it is not a good quality of health endorsement. Some however have been conditioned to it as a way of fitting it, justification of how and why one is and way to advocate and to even vent.

The formula:

Most all around me is the typical and I am the abnormal.

A few are like me but the rest are typical.

A Different Formula:

Autism is part of the collective human race and to be human is normal and so thus autism is part of normal. We are all humans not N.T or Aspies and even when it comes to race just humans as well and part of the collective norm.