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29 Apr 2009, 9:55 am

My pediatrition is a very good one and has kept my son out of the hospital a couple of times. She is very Pro vaccine. I am a member of a support website in my area and she was totally trashed on it because she refuses to not give vaccines. She has articles on the walls of her rooms that support vaccines as not being the cause of autism. These parents discuss how to get religious exemptions to get their kids in school without them. This is just scary. It makes me cringe. These parents don't know what it is like to live in a world with Measles, Polio, etc. and they have no idea the damage vaccines prevent.

We had a measles exposure in a local grocery store last week. How would these parents feel if their infant they innocently took to the store, intentionally during the day with less people, catches it and becomes damaged by it?

For Jenny McCarthy to state that people have to catch these diseases before vaccines can be "green" or whatever she says, is just insensitive and ignorant. How would she feel if it was her kid? The language could be a little more professional too. How can you respect someone who says "F***" and "S***" every 6 words?

Enough of my rant! Thanks for listening!



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29 Apr 2009, 11:29 am

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I just found out I wasn't vaccinated until I was five. I'm still autistic, and even showed signs of autism before that.



That's good for me to know. I never believed the vaccine theory, because I believe if the mercury in the vaccines were that toxic it would be detectable in the blood or some other tissue test.


Yea, I got my first shot at six. I clearly remember running under the table and hiding because it was a needle. Now, if that shot at six gave me autism, then lets have Lady McCrappy explain why in videos taken when I was only 10 or 11 months old, I was already showing signs of autism. The specialist I saw at UCLA for an unrelated condition saw it, Mum never did anything about it.

So, how'd a shot I get at SIX, which is 72 months, affect me at 10 months? That's some crazy time travel.

Maybe Lady McC has a point. Maybe the shots did make her kid act autistic. It's quite possible the little brat was allergic, had a reaction similar to autism symptoms. It would have gone away on it's own, but kids are smart. Little brainiac kid here realises that when he acts like he did when he was sick, Mommy pays attention. So he does it again, and gets more attention. Learned behavior. It's only when the attention turns to something he doesn't like, like crappy diets and weird doctors from DAN, that kiddo realises, he doesn't like this anymore. And quits acting like he's autistic.

Cause and solution, all in a neat little bundle. To bad she's got to punish everyone else's kids for it.


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30 Apr 2009, 8:43 pm

kip wrote:
Maybe Lady McC has a point. Maybe the shots did make her kid act autistic. It's quite possible the little brat was allergic, had a reaction similar to autism symptoms. It would have gone away on it's own, but kids are smart. Little brainiac kid here realises that when he acts like he did when he was sick, Mommy pays attention. So he does it again, and gets more attention. Learned behavior. It's only when the attention turns to something he doesn't like, like crappy diets and weird doctors from DAN, that kiddo realises, he doesn't like this anymore. And quits acting like he's autistic.

Cause and solution, all in a neat little bundle. To bad she's got to punish everyone else's kids for it.

Actually, it's far more likely that he has Landau–Kleffner syndrome; which is frequently misdiagnosed as autism, and often goes into temporary or permanent remission on it's own.



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01 May 2009, 9:17 am

luchog wrote:
kip wrote:
Maybe Lady McC has a point. Maybe the shots did make her kid act autistic. It's quite possible the little brat was allergic, had a reaction similar to autism symptoms. It would have gone away on it's own, but kids are smart. Little brainiac kid here realises that when he acts like he did when he was sick, Mommy pays attention. So he does it again, and gets more attention. Learned behavior. It's only when the attention turns to something he doesn't like, like crappy diets and weird doctors from DAN, that kiddo realises, he doesn't like this anymore. And quits acting like he's autistic.

Cause and solution, all in a neat little bundle. To bad she's got to punish everyone else's kids for it.

Actually, it's far more likely that he has Landau–Kleffner syndrome; which is frequently misdiagnosed as autism, and often goes into temporary or permanent remission on it's own.


You and your wiki words.

After googling, I agree with you. That sounds quite plausible, and also fits the seizures she claims he had. Not every autistic has seizures. I didn't as a child, and I know plenty of other people on here didn't either.


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06 May 2009, 3:10 pm

I'm not really anti or pro-cure, but i really do dislike this woman.

Her general lack of intelligence coupled with the over-use of her vocal-chords insult me.

It's ashame she can't be sued/charged with something. I really wish manslaughter/cruelty covered stuff like this.



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06 May 2009, 6:38 pm

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It's ashame she can't be sued/charged with something. I really wish manslaughter/cruelty covered stuff like this.

Considering what an influence she is on the anti-vax movement, and the steadily increasing numbers and sizes of outbreaks of dangerous diseases which could have been completely eliminated by now, I'd say "crimes against humanity" is not too far fetched. Not in the class of Andrew Wakefield, Peter Duesberg, or Thabo Mbeki, perhaps, but definitely guilty of spreading potentially fatal misinformation.



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06 May 2009, 6:44 pm

When John Travolta's son, Jett, died earlier this year, Jenny made her usual appearance and commented that Jett could have been saved, had he went on the same diet that her son did, which supposedly "cured" him of his autism.

What a stupid, stupid woman.



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13 May 2009, 10:06 am

Mage wrote:
http://www.jennymccarthybodycount.com/Jenny_McCarthy_Body_Count/Home.html

Basically it's a count of everyone that has gotten sick or died because they weren't immunized against preventable illness. Though I'm sure Jenny McCarthy isn't responsible for all those, she sure is responsible for at least a few. Why anyone trusts this former playboy bunny/media whore over doctors, scientists and the medical journals in the first place, I have no idea.


Most current immunizations don't contain mercury; her point is no longer relevant. I've tried the casein-free and glutein-free diet stuff - no effect except it made me sleepy. Through my own observations, I can't see how she's helping the cause of adaptation.


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15 May 2009, 7:00 pm

This website is misleading, like putting an article on the US war in Iraq coupled with a "children that have died in the world" count.



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17 May 2009, 1:02 am

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This website is misleading, like putting an article on the US war in Iraq coupled with a "children that have died in the world" count.


That is true - Jenny McCarthy has not "directly" killed any child.

But her stance on vaccines and her use of her celebrity status can cause indirect harm that is not easy to measure.


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18 May 2009, 1:39 pm

Mage, I'll keep this to a minium by saying, I've never really much cared for Jenny McCarthy as, she has felt in some way or another that there is some sort of cure for autistic children by carrying out various treatments and formulas, often to the point that such scenarios might be more harmful or simply not be effective whatsoever..Anyways, if some people still wish to go on about the immunilization debate be my guest for, I've never felt there is any harm with vaccines yet, that's my opinion only..

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18 May 2009, 3:50 pm

MommyJones wrote:
My pediatrition is a very good one and has kept my son out of the hospital a couple of times. She is very Pro vaccine. I am a member of a support website in my area and she was totally trashed on it because she refuses to not give vaccines. She has articles on the walls of her rooms that support vaccines as not being the cause of autism. These parents discuss how to get religious exemptions to get their kids in school without them. This is just scary. It makes me cringe. These parents don't know what it is like to live in a world with Measles, Polio, etc. and they have no idea the damage vaccines prevent.


Arrg an ethical dilemma... people have the right to make their own choices even bad ones. But how do you combine that with stupidity this monumental.

If it was vaccines for yourself and not the kid I'd have no problem, want to risk your life be my guest.



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18 May 2009, 3:57 pm

Actually, not getting vaccines is bad for everyone as if enough people don't get them we can lose "herd immunity." This would especially affect people who can't get them for medical reasons. Not to mention the cost to society for taking care of anyone who becomes badly disabled from a preventable disease.



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25 May 2009, 8:42 pm

My K is now 4, and has had the school label of autism since 2 years and some when she was nonverbal and not doing the eyecontact thing. She's doing great now. Verbal. Plays with other kids. Calls me mommy and tells us that she loves us. She had all her vaxes on time. No special diet or supplements. Just speech therapy and OT and spec ed preschool, she started getting help (professional help) at age 17 months. I'm on the spectrum too, as are two of my three sisters.

My other spectrum sister has a son, now 3. Also autistic. He got almost NO vaccines except I think polio. He's getting them now. He's getting professional help now, but she's always worked with him so I'm sure he'll end up fine.

My personal opinion is that vaccines do not cause autism. Mine was vaxed and is autistic. Hers was not and is still autistic. Case closed.

Sure, maybe some kids have bad reactions and sustain brain damage - but to me that's not true autism.