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01 Sep 2011, 3:27 am

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Well I was not diagnosed with anything as a child.....so my depression, AS and anxiety made me lazy, whiney, over-sensitive, a psychopath and a number of other terrible things. I prefer being anxious, depressed and autistic than a lazy, whiney, over-sensitive, rude, psychopath(not that a psychopath would nessisarly be over-sensative). At least those things explain some of my issues without putting all the blame for it on me as well.


Sweetleaf, ci is absolutely right. You are too hard on yourself. And that is exactly why you are experiencing these problems., Self-doubt and self-pity feeding bad neuroses that then feed shame and helplessness that then feed self-doubt and self-pity.


If you where in my position you would probably be doing the same thing......and well I do not think, I am the cause of all my problems. I don't always pity myself....I mean I have kind of been doing that a bit lately but a lot of times I am just of the veiw life sucks and that's how it goes so no use dwelling on it.

And that also sounds unhealthy. You're still doing it. Since when has blaming yourself for things you can't actually pinpoint to yourself been healthy? You said yourself one time that you were simply blaming yourself for your bad life because 'you were autistic'. But do you even know the causes of your suffering? Or is it the symptoms you point out all the time? I doubt autism has much to do with this. If anything it's your outlook and that is easily dispelled by not having a bad outlook.



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01 Sep 2011, 2:58 pm

Gedrene wrote:
And that also sounds unhealthy. You're still doing it. Since when has blaming yourself for things you can't actually pinpoint to yourself been healthy? You said yourself one time that you were simply blaming yourself for your bad life because 'you were autistic'. But do you even know the causes of your suffering? Or is it the symptoms you point out all the time? I doubt autism has much to do with this. If anything it's your outlook and that is easily dispelled by not having a bad outlook.


I know how frustrating it is to talk to a depressed person (I've been on both sides of this), but "easily dispelled by not having a bad outlook" is not easy at all when dealing with depression. If it were, depression wouldn't even be diagnosable because people could just decide to not be depressed anymore.

What helps with depression is treatment (medication, therapy) and changing the circumstances that cause the depression. I actually have a lot of sympathy for Sweetleaf over this because of the number of people telling her that she just has to want it badly enough to make it stop and that just doesn't work.



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01 Sep 2011, 3:01 pm

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I know how frustrating it is to talk to a depressed person (I've been on both sides of this), but "easily dispelled by not having a bad outlook" is not easy at all when dealing with depression.


I have been depressed. I know what it is like. How one sees the word can change everything about them. That's why personality is an important facet of our lives.



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01 Sep 2011, 3:21 pm

Gedrene wrote:
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I know how frustrating it is to talk to a depressed person (I've been on both sides of this), but "easily dispelled by not having a bad outlook" is not easy at all when dealing with depression.


I have been depressed. I know what it is like. How one sees the word can change everything about them. That's why personality is an important facet of our lives.


I guess I'll just disagree here - not everyone can just shift their worldview until they're not depressed anymore.

I do think that being depressed is a good enough reason to find a way to not be depressed, but the task isn't easy for most.



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03 Sep 2011, 5:09 pm

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I do think that being depressed is a good enough reason to find a way to not be depressed, but the task isn't easy for most.

That's the sort of outlook that people adopt that makes it harder on themselves to not be depressed. :/
Most depression isn't clinical Verdandi. I should know. It certainly isn't the case with us. Most of us get treated like s**t as kids.