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22 Sep 2011, 1:19 pm

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Search for autistic on wickipedia. I can't believe you don't know what it means. ;)

Okay, I'll modify the question to drill it in to your mind. What is the significance of saying you're autistic when you're saying that you write a little, not that you're a journalist.


They are both true. That is all.

Journalists wear neckties. I don't like neckties, I like funny hats.

I don't want to be a journalist.

Well first autism doesn't change anything about your argument. Second, you don't want to become a journalist because you don't like neckties?


What? I don't like neckties. They aren't supposed to wear funny hats either.

I just want to keep on writing. Hopefully people like what I put out.

Nothign wront with neckties and silly hats need context. That's why people call them silly. I am by no means negatively commenting on any future contributions you may give. I hope you do give positive contributions to real arguments with reasoned ideas. It would be far above the accusatory puke and culture of mindless opinion we have gotten on here for a long time.


I know what a journalist is and will wear a necktie if I have to. I was having a bit of fun mocking the, "accusatory puke and culture of mindless opinions," as you say.

Nothing whatsoever against you.



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22 Sep 2011, 1:31 pm

Tambourine-Man, I think you asked very good and direct questions. Starting with the first one:

"1. How does Autism Speaks account for the large community of self-advocating autistics who oppose their organization? Does Autism Speaks feel this population has misunderstood their message, and if so, what might you say to clarify your intentions?"

And then, all the way through to number ten. Nicely done.

And I will accept progress in their answers. At the same time, I still think self-advocacy groups are the main way to go. And maybe we need to figure out ways for smaller groups to tap into funding and/or do our own fundraising.



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22 Sep 2011, 1:49 pm

Tambourine-Man wrote:
Gedrene wrote:
Tambourine-Man wrote:
Gedrene wrote:
Tambourine-Man wrote:
Gedrene wrote:
Tambourine-Man wrote:
Search for autistic on wickipedia. I can't believe you don't know what it means. ;)

Okay, I'll modify the question to drill it in to your mind. What is the significance of saying you're autistic when you're saying that you write a little, not that you're a journalist.


They are both true. That is all.

Journalists wear neckties. I don't like neckties, I like funny hats.

I don't want to be a journalist.

Well first autism doesn't change anything about your argument. Second, you don't want to become a journalist because you don't like neckties?


What? I don't like neckties. They aren't supposed to wear funny hats either.

I just want to keep on writing. Hopefully people like what I put out.

Nothign wront with neckties and silly hats need context. That's why people call them silly. I am by no means negatively commenting on any future contributions you may give. I hope you do give positive contributions to real arguments with reasoned ideas. It would be far above the accusatory puke and culture of mindless opinion we have gotten on here for a long time.


I know what a journalist is and will wear a necktie if I have to. I was having a bit of fun mocking the, "accusatory puke and culture of mindless opinions," as you say.

Nothing whatsoever against you.

Aha, how would I have got that? What you said about them is more a case of 'succeed by any means necessary'.



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22 Sep 2011, 3:10 pm

Gedrene wrote:
Tambourine-Man wrote:
Gedrene wrote:
Tambourine-Man wrote:
Gedrene wrote:
Tambourine-Man wrote:
Gedrene wrote:
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Search for autistic on wickipedia. I can't believe you don't know what it means. ;)

Okay, I'll modify the question to drill it in to your mind. What is the significance of saying you're autistic when you're saying that you write a little, not that you're a journalist.


They are both true. That is all.

Journalists wear neckties. I don't like neckties, I like funny hats.

I don't want to be a journalist.

Well first autism doesn't change anything about your argument. Second, you don't want to become a journalist because you don't like neckties?


What? I don't like neckties. They aren't supposed to wear funny hats either.

I just want to keep on writing. Hopefully people like what I put out.

Nothign wront with neckties and silly hats need context. That's why people call them silly. I am by no means negatively commenting on any future contributions you may give. I hope you do give positive contributions to real arguments with reasoned ideas. It would be far above the accusatory puke and culture of mindless opinion we have gotten on here for a long time.


I know what a journalist is and will wear a necktie if I have to. I was having a bit of fun mocking the, "accusatory puke and culture of mindless opinions," as you say.

Nothing whatsoever against you.

Aha, how would I have got that? What you said about them is more a case of 'succeed by any means necessary'.


I really wasn't trying to make a point to you or anyone else. I'm just tired.

Ok everyone...

I'm not going to defend myself, my motives or this article anymore.

This is supposed to be a dialogue. I asked some questions. I got some answers. Anyone who wants to ask some more questions is welcome to.

Or, you can discontinue the dialogue and keep venting.

I did exactly what I intended to do.

I will no longer take part in this conversation, so feel free to say whatever you want about me.

Here in record, I am whatever you say I am.

In reality and at the end of the day I'm just an autistic kid who did a bit of writing.



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22 Sep 2011, 3:13 pm

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I really wasn't trying to make a point to you or anyone else. I'm just tired.

Ok everyone...

I'm not going to defend myself, my motives or this article anymore.

This is supposed to be a dialogue. I asked some questions. I got some answers. Anyone who wants to ask some more questions is welcome to.

Or, you can discontinue the dialogue and keep venting.

I did exactly what I intended to do.

I will no longer take part in this conversation, so feel free to say whatever you want about me.

Here in record, I am whatever you say I am.

In reality and at the end of the day I'm just an autistic kid who did a bit of writing.

Hopefully that doesn't include me. I wasn't telling you off. I was just correcting you, barely prodding. :]



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22 Sep 2011, 4:06 pm

Gedrene wrote:
Tambourine-Man wrote:
I really wasn't trying to make a point to you or anyone else. I'm just tired.

Ok everyone...

I'm not going to defend myself, my motives or this article anymore.

This is supposed to be a dialogue. I asked some questions. I got some answers. Anyone who wants to ask some more questions is welcome to.

Or, you can discontinue the dialogue and keep venting.

I did exactly what I intended to do.

I will no longer take part in this conversation, so feel free to say whatever you want about me.

Here in record, I am whatever you say I am.

In reality and at the end of the day I'm just an autistic kid who did a bit of writing.

Hopefully that doesn't include me. I wasn't telling you off. I was just correcting you, barely prodding. :]


No. Not at all. You've been very kind.



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22 Sep 2011, 4:14 pm

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I have so much to say about the awful reality of Autism Speaks, that I struggle to find words...but I don't have to, because somebody else found the words better than I ever could, and I hope nobody minds if, rather than plagiarising and paraphrasing them to pass those words off as my own, I just come out and quote them from AFF:

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Autism Speaks was founded by two aggrevied and bereaved grandparents of a kid with Autism. They were middleclass and not without social and media connections. The grandfather worked as an executive at Fox.


Now they took the view that Autism was (like the Generation Rescue crowd) the fault of mercury from vaccinations. They started a long running campaign against this and touted what amounted to therapetic leeching toxins from the blood as well as funding towards making a case towards pharamceutical companies. They warded potential parents off vaccinating their children and far from embracing the “gifts” of Autism that they now allude to, portrayed Autism as a cancer and a monster. A “leaden shell” behind which “normal kids are hidden and trapped, waiting for the mercury to be leeched out so they can be “normal.

They denounced all naysayers and in their efforts and scaremongering managed to dry up funding resources for other Autistic charities and engulfed similar charities like Cure Autism Now. They also took measure to sue naysayers including a 14 year old AFF member. You did know about this right? They had similar hopeful and deluded parents barracking for them and supporting them through funding and financial backing. Then something really strange happened.

The cases and studies did not support their theory. By this time they had scientists and a HUGE following. What did they do to the parents that were waiting for their children to be released from the leaden shells that they had PROMISED them they would do? What did they say to all the Autistics they had demonised? What did they do to all the groups that had denounced their abhorrent stances?

Well…nothing really. They abandoned the people that trusted them and that they lied and broke their promises to. They simply went of on the new best strategy. Biological and genetic research and obtaining vast amounts of genetic databases of material from Autistics to further their ends. Who would they need to work with for such patents? That’s right. Their good friends in Pharmaceuticals. But of course by now they had a presence of huge proportions because simply no other Autism charity could compete on a funding level with them in respect to Autistic ventures and due to the strong connections with celebrities and governments (oh a papal recognition from the Vatican) they basically write their own ticket.

Now It gets better. The fierce critics were by and large from Autistic online communities. Go to Wrong planet and look at some of the horro of Autism Speaks threads. Some one bumped them about 6 months ago so they ought not be too hard to find. (Yes I wonder who too LOL). Also of course you need to look here and especially on AFF’s blogsite.

So winning over the hearts and minds of these empty headed Autistic opponents was the next step. They have to be reasonable and play nice and look for opportunities to present themselves as a worthy organisation...

...Now there is another opportunity. A young enthusiastic little self-proclaimed activist opens up channels of communication and in such a way that glosses over any of the BS they have done in the past or suggestion that they are anything but a reasonable organisation worthy of a listen and that we can not beat them we may as well support them.

That in itself is pretty bad. But you know what is worse? YOU now trying to bask in the sun over this tremondous achievement. But that is forgivable. You are young and enthusiastic and maybe have no idea with the apparent little research you put into seeking out such a dangerous organisation. What is worse still is now berating anyone who doesn’t embrace this huge favour you have done by allowing them to think that we may be a soft touch and may want to actually extend the olive branch or some crap.



I am not into guilt tripping you John Scotty...that is unfair and wrong, you began to recognise your own talent and started to feel around for ways to parlay that into a livelihood...this isn't your first mistake and it won't be your last, but TRYING to make best use of your talent, overall, is probably one of the best decisions you will ever make in your whole life and the mistakes you make are the eggs you have to break to make that omelette...

We all make mistakes, I spent a month as an enthusiastic evangelist for Amway at your age :oops:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Wright

Per Wiki, Bob Wright, the grandfather of the child with autism, was the President and CEO at NBC that launched MSNBC and CNBC. He was never an executive at Fox. .

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He was named president and CEO of NBC in 1986 by new General Electric boss Jack Welch. In 2001, he became chairman and CEO. In May 2004, NBC's parent company, General Electric, acquired Vivendi Universal Entertainment to create NBC Universal; Wright, who orchestrated the deal, was named chairman and CEO of the new company. In February 2007, Wright, after 21 years, was succeeded by Jeff Zucker, who was named president and CEO of NBC Universal. Wright remained chairman of the media company until May 2007 and remained vice chairman of GE until May 2008.[1]

Wright had one of the longest and most successful tenures of any media company chief executive. Under his leadership, NBC was transformed from a broadcast network into a global media powerhouse, with leadership in TV programming, station ownership, and television production. In 1986, Wright's first year at NBC, the network had revenues of $2.6 billion. By 2006, his last full year at the helm, company revenues had grown to $16.2 billion. During Wright's tenure, NBC was GE's most successful business, enjoying double-digit compounded annual growth in operating profit.

Among his achievements, Wright diversified NBC by launching cable networks such as CNBC (the world's leading name in broadcast business news) and MSNBC (a leading news cable outlet and website). He also acquired entertainment cable network Bravo and Spanish-language broadcaster Telemundo, before orchestrating the VUE acquisition, which added to NBC the Universal Pictures film studio, Universal theme parks, and a collection of fast-growing and profitable cable networks such as USA Network and SCI FI Network (now called Syfy).


Autism Speaks supported research into a vaccine and potential association to Autism as medical science warranted. When the possibility of causation was disproven they no longer supported that research, instead they now support research into subsets of individuals that may be subject to deleterious effects of vaccines, but not as a cause of autism. It is clearly documented on their website and the research that is being conducted now.

They never supported anything but FDA approved use of Chelation. Chelation has never been approved for either FDA use to treat autism or for research into autism. Autism Speaks has never funded research into Chelation for Autism, the FDA will not allow it because of safety issues. It is documented on their website.

Autism Speaks provides statistics on Cancer and other illnesses on their website that indicate the prevalence of autism is higher in the country and more funding is provided in research for these other conditions. But they have never compared autism as a more severe condition in comparison to any of these disorders.

Autism Speaks provided a cease and desist letter for a website determined not to meet legal requirements for the fair use act by their lawyers. They contend that they did not realize a teenager was responsible for the site. There is no evidence that they have started actual measures to sue any naysayer. I can't make a judgement on whether or not fair use act standards were met, because the website is not available for review.

There have been many libelous statements about Autism Speaks written all over the web, with no legal action taken to stop them, so I doubt they would have taken action action to cease and desist, unless the problem they saw rose to a much higher level of concern. Instead, it seems like they have pretty thick skin, in regard to general criticism of their organization.

In fact an individual from The AFF site presented a story that Autism Speaks was attempting to censor his sale of T-shirts, that is still a widely circulated story on some websites. Several years ago he admitted on the AFF website that it was miscommunication between the company that was making the T-shirts and Autism Speaks was actually not trying to censor the T-shirts he was making.

Through the research that Autism Speaks funds we now understand that Autism has many different causes, and no definitive genetic cause will likely ever be found.

They have also funded research that indicates that environment plays a bigger role that thought before with a huge study on twins, that was not understood before, that provides opposing evidence to the first small study on twins that suggested that genetics was close to 90% of the cause of autism.

They have also supported research that has led to an early pre-screening checklist for Autism, that parents can use in help of getting a child a professional diagnosis as early as age 1, for potential earlier and more sucessful intervention. There is a full record of all the breakthroughs of additional research that they have supported on their website.

Autism Speaks has now provided responses to the questions that have been asked. Some understand them as sincere some don't. If any mistep or mistatement makes an organization a liar, it's not a goal that is likely that anyone or any organization can meet.

Whether it is a mistake or not, the individual that wrote that piece above started by stating that the Grandfather of the child worked as a Fox Executive, Fox is an organization that many consider as corrupt. It's clearly not a fact, but I would give the individual the benefit of the doubt and would never call it a lie, until the individual that wrote it had the opportunity to clarify that it was miscommunication or they were mistaken.

I see the same civil standard is not one that applies to the Autism Speaks organization, from all who have responded here. We are all human and deserve that type of respect.

Suzanna Wright spoke in 2008 in words to suggest Autism could ultimately be eradicated, as reference to the disabling impacts that her grandson was experiencing.

That statement has been represented many times to suggest that it was a eugenics statement to rid the earth of the autistic instead of the disabling impacts of Autism. That statement was clarified in the question in the interview where it was asked if the positive aspects were important in Autism.

The Representative clarified, that Autism Speaks wanted to celebrate the positive Aspects of Autism and has never sought to eradicate Autism, in reference to the way Autism was defined in the interview question.

It was a clarification of the word Autism in reference to the question that was asked, but yet has been called a lie instead, because the statement was made several years before in a different context with the disabling symptoms of Autism.

It the statement was not understood properly the civil thing to do would be to ask for further clarification. That line is still open with Tambourine Man, if anyone requires further clarification. It is the civil thing to do, instead of suggesting the statement is a lie.

Most everything I have stated here to provided clarification to what was said in that piece above is evidenced here in the record at wrong planet. If anyone wants specific evidence for any statement I made to provide clarification to what was said in the piece above, I will be glad to provide that specific evidence.

Whatever anyone wants to say about the Tambourine man: making comments that appear to disparage his personal character, whether it is his medical needs, he is wet behind the ears, a little activist, or whatever one can come up with, all he has done is provide the answers that have been asked for, and attempted to stay neutral.

It may seem surreal for some, but Autism Speaks is cooperating and bending the way of what has been requested.

For those that can see it and respect it, the effort Tambourine Man has made here, is one that no one else has been able to provide yet, in what seems like a battle against a hated enemy.

Continuing open dialogue is the only way forward to potential constructive results. From what I've seen on the AFF site, it looks like close to 50/50 mix. With those opposed to moving forward, continuing to present similiar oppositional rhetoric that has been recorded here in the last few years.

There is nothing that can influence a person to move forward, if they insist on standing still. It appears that Autism Speaks and half at AFF are willing to move forward in a positive, constructive direction. That is more of a positive impact from the interview than I expected.



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22 Sep 2011, 4:28 pm

aghogday wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Wright

Per Wiki, Bob Wright, the grandfather of the child with autism, was the President and CEO at NBC that launched MSNBC and CNBC. He was never an executive at Fox. .



Oh wow...you mean Bob Wright was with Cox and NBC not Fox?

WHY HAS NOBODY MENTIONED THIS BEFORE?

This changes EVERYTHING.

I will be flying into Kennedy first thing Monday to complete the paperwork and collect my 6 figure salary - anybody else want to meet in the arrivals area for coffee and a doughnut first?
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(That wasn't my piece BTW, and I felt it made far too many important points for there to be any reason to double check the background trivia)



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22 Sep 2011, 4:51 pm

Zeraeph wrote:
aghogday wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Wright

Per Wiki, Bob Wright, the grandfather of the child with autism, was the President and CEO at NBC that launched MSNBC and CNBC. He was never an executive at Fox. .



Oh wow...you mean Bob Wright was with Cox and NBC not Fox?

WHY HAS NOBODY MENTIONED THIS BEFORE?

This changes EVERYTHING.

I will be flying into Kennedy first thing Monday to complete the paperwork and collect my 6 figure salary - anybody else want to meet in the arrivals area for coffee and a doughnut first?
:roll:

(That wasn't my piece BTW, and I felt it made far too many important points for there to be any reason to double check the background trivia)


I checked the rest of the points. and provided evidence as required there as well. Actually, I've never heard the Fox comment before, understood him to be part of the GE organization. MSNBC, and CNBC have been interesting cable networks, I'm impressed that he started those networks as NBC President and CEO.

I like accurate facts.



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22 Sep 2011, 10:44 pm

They took down the interview.

It is gone.



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22 Sep 2011, 11:09 pm

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They took down the interview.

It is gone.


It is still available at this link:

http://www.aspiesforfreedom.com/showthread.php?tid=23241&page=1


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Autism Speaks

An Interview with
Dana Marnane, Vice President, Awareness and Events

In this groundbreaking interview, Marnane discusses
Autism Speaks’ controversial past, the possibility of an autism cure, the future of this powerful organization, and more…


By John Scott Holman

How many times have members of the autistic community shouted variations of the following questions while waving picket signs? How many keyboards have been attacked by the fingers of enraged autistics hurling such questions into cyberspace? Never before has a representative of Autism Speaks offered so many answers directly to an openly hostile online community. Never… before today.

John Elder Robison, acclaimed author of “Look Me in the Eye” and “Be Different: Adventures of a Free Range Aspergian,” expressed the necessity of this endeavor, “Autism affects us in many different ways. I feel the pain of being forever an outsider. My son is now going down that same road, as a 21-year-old with Asperger’s. Do I want to develop therapies and tools to help him have a better life? You bet.

Would I call that a cure? Of course not. I would call that helping him learn to fit in and get by.

Autism Speaks was founded by parents and grandparents… as the organization has matured, it has begun seeking alternate points of view from folks like you and me… it’s here to stay, and we will all achieve far more if we get together and talk. I invite you to join the conversation.”

I wish to extend my gratitude to all the members of aspiesforfreedom.com who offered their support and suggestions throughout the undertaking of this venture. You all helped to produce something truly meaningful, the impact of which will not be easily measured.

I am no one special. I am merely an individual who laid down my picket sign and politely demanded to be heard. Many joined me in this demand.

We all have a voice, and together our voices are a cry for freedom and equality which cannot be ignored.

I submitted the following questions to Dana Marnane, who promptly and enthusiastically responded.


1. How does Autism Speaks account for the large community of self-advocating autistics who oppose their organization? Does Autism Speaks feel this population has misunderstood their message, and if so, what might you say to clarify your intentions?

A: Autism Speaks’ mission is to improve the lives of people with autism spectrum disorders (ASD) and their families. ASD is a very heterogeneous condition and, thus, the needs of the autism community are diverse. However, a core mission at Autism Speaks is to help each individual and each family address their unique struggles and help each person with ASD live the most productive and meaningful life possible. One person with ASD might define his or her greatest challenge as the need for gainful employment and full acceptance by society, whereas another person with ASD might be most affected by severe, intractable seizures or other disabling medical problems that can often co-exist with an autism diagnosis. We believe that all of these issues deserve research and advocacy.

One tension that exists is whether basic research on the biology of autism or studies focused on services is more deserving. We believe we need to fund both kinds of research. The basic research, including genetic and other biomedical studies, offers the best hope that we will be able to help the person with seizures or other severe medical problems. Such research may also lead to treatments that improve communication and social skills. When Autism Speaks first began, much of our funding was directed toward basic research. However, over the past few years, we have been balancing this basic research with studies that are developing new service and support programs for people at all points on the autism spectrum. We have also directed more funds toward advocacy efforts and research focused on adults with ASD. Among our six targeted research emphasis areas is a focus on understanding adult development, including issues related to successful outcomes, interventions and supports, and medical issues. As a result of our soliciting these kinds of research proposals, we are funding more and more studies that focus on issues that adults with ASD face as they seek to live fulfilling, independent and productive lives.

2. Autism Speaks funds the Autism Genome project, described, on autismspeaks.org, as, "the largest study ever conducted to find the genes associated with inherited risk for autism." What specific benefits might this research provide the autistic community? Why might so many autistics oppose such research?

A: We are working hard to understand the biological basis of autism as this will help us target medical treatments to the individuals who need and want them. We now know that autism isn’t one condition, but rather many conditions with many different causes and biologies. Genes are one way of helping to categorize the different autisms so that treatments can be more effective. For example, some, but not all, people with ASD have sleep problems and, in some cases, it appears to be linked to a gene involved in melatonin production (melatonin regulates our sleep cycle). By identifying individuals with that genetic variation, we can hopefully identify those people who would be most likely to respond to melatonin supplementation. This is just one example, but there are many others like it. Genes are one of the best ways of subtyping and understanding the biology of autism so we can develop interventions that can help people with medical problems, such as sleep and GI problems, seizures, food allergies, and so on.

3. In 2007, Autism Speaks merged with Cure Autism Now. Does finding an autism cure continue to be one of your organizations primary objectives? Do you believe it is legitimately possible to "cure" autism, and if so, what exactly would such a cure entail? What characteristics would be removed from a cured individual and what characteristics would remain?

A: Our organization has four main objectives – to raise awareness of autism, fund research into the causes, better diagnosis and more effective treatments of autism, to advocate for families (for instance – insurance coverage for validated treatments) and to providing resources for families such as the transition toolkit for adolescents who are becoming adults, community grants to expand community services, create housing and much more, as well as information on where to get assistance around the country.

As our mission relates to “cure”, our goal is to reduce suffering associated with autism, in all its forms. Some would call that a cure. Others would call it remediation of disability. For others, it means acceptance and empowerment.

One of the things that is so challenging about autism is the fact that there’s so much variation in the way autism is expressed in people. Some individuals can have a productive and creative life, and they aren’t looking for a cure. They’re interested in being accepted and getting access to services to help them adapt to the world with their special skills. At the other end, there are individuals severely affected who have significant medical conditions, like GI distress and have never spoken. For those individuals, the prospect of a cure for autism is really important because to that person “cure” means being able to communicate and free of pain. That results in a lot of different perspectives of where our priorities should be.

4. A growing body of scientific research suggests that we are rapidly nearing the development of an amniocentesis test to detect autism, much like the procedure currently used to detect Down’s syndrome. Does funding provided by Autism Speaks in any way enable the development of such a test? If a prenatal test for autism was developed, does Autism Speaks believe that it should be made available to the public?

A: Autism Speaks is not funding any research to develop a prenatal test for autism. That is not our goal. The genetic research Autism Speaks has funded is aimed at finding biological causes, as described above.

5. It has been proposed that Autism, Asperger’s Disorder and Pervasive Developmental Disorder – Not Otherwise Specified, be replaced in the DSM-V by a general category referred to as Autism Spectrum Disorder. How might this be beneficial, and or detrimental, to the autistic community, their families, schools, the clinical practices attempting to improve their quality of life, etc…?

A: In February, 2010, Autism Speaks published a blog on this very topic at http://blog.autismspeaks.org/2010/02/10/...r-autism/. In that post, we acknowledged that the community would have a wide range of reactions depending on one’s perspective (a recurring theme in this interview!). We pointed out that scientifically, there is no strong scientific rationale for distinguishing among autism, Asperger syndrome, and PDD-NOS. We said at that time that the changes to the DSM, scientifically, make sense.

However we also acknowledged that people in the community living with autism may have a very different view of the change. In particular, “Many individuals personally identify with the diagnostic label they have been given and grown up with. They may participate in support or advocacy groups that identify with a specific label: for example “Aspies.” Thus, although the scientific and professional communities may institute a change in the diagnostic criteria, many may choose to use the original labels despite the changes in the DSM. And there is nothing wrong with this. In fact, there is precedent for this. For example, “sensory integration disorder” and “nonverbal learning disability” are examples of labels that have been used by the clinical community, but are not specifically part of the DSM.

One benefit of the change is that it may help increase access to services for those individuals with Asperger Syndrome and PDD-NOS who were previously denied access to autism-related services.”

Interestingly, the reaction to that blog and other articles was mixed, mirroring the very conflicts across our community.

6. Hans Asperger said, "It seems that for success in science and art, a dash of autism is essential." Does Autism Speaks believe that certain valuable human characteristics might be lost if autism was to be eradicated from the species?

A: Autism Speaks does not and never has sought to eradicate autism. We wish to celebrate the valuable human characteristics of autism, as you say, by helping each person with autism use those characteristics in the most successful and rewarding way possible. At the same time, we hope to eliminate the frequent co-occurring medical issues that negatively impact quality of life for many of those on the spectrum. We want compassion for those who need it and help for those who want it. For the individual who cannot communicate – we want to help them find a voice. For the individual who is self-injurious and cannot function, we want to ease that suffering with whatever treatments will help. For those who are self-advocates and just want to be accepted for who they are – we salute you and we would never try to change you. In fact, we desperately need your voice to help bring even more awareness, understanding and compassion to those who are not touched by autism.

7. How does Autism Speaks feel about speculation that certain important figures in human history, such as Einstein and Mozart, had High Functioning Autism, or Asperger Syndrome? Does Autism Speaks believe that individuals with HFA or AS have greater societal value than those with lower functioning forms of autism?

A: We believe that everyone with autism has special gifts – it’s up to families and the community to help them discover those qualities. We do not speculate on who may or may not have had Asperger Syndrome in history.

8. Would someone on the autism spectrum be capable of attaining a well-paid and influential position within Autism Speaks?

A: Absolutely. We post all open positions on multiple job sites and encourage anyone who meets the qualifications to apply. Autism Speaks does not discriminate in its hiring practices. People with autism are employed at Autism Speaks and are also appointed to several boards and committees, such as the Scientific Advisory Board and Treatment Advisory Board, both of which review and evaluate our research grant proposals. So people on the autism spectrum are shaping what we fund. We also have many family members at Autism Speaks, both as employees and board/committee members.

9. Many of Autism Speaks’ promotional strategies have been heavily criticized. Are there any specific marketing choices that Autism Speaks has come to regret? If so, what would Autism Speaks say to those who were offended by the way they have chosen to depict autism, and what corrective action is being taken?

A: We are a young organization and we learn as we grow. Without a doubt we have made mistakes – and to those we may have offended we are truly sorry. We never set out to offend. We are sincerely trying to help all those struggling with ASD. The autism spectrum is just that – a broad spectrum – and we respect that there are many different points of view. What touches someone can offend another. What we ask of this community is to also respect that others don’t think or feel the way they do – that doesn’t mean their opinions and thoughts are wrong. We all need to learn to be respectful and compassionate.

10. What primary goal does Autism Speaks wish to reach within the next decade?

A: Like we said earlier, our organization has four main objectives – to raise awareness of autism, fund research into the causes, better diagnosis and more effective treatments of autism, to advocate for families and provide resources for families and individuals. Our main goals moving forward are:
• Federal legislation to cover autism insurance – in the meantime we will continue going state-to-state.
• Reauthorization of the Combating Autism Act to provide critical government funds for research and services for autism.
• Discovering and developing more effective ways of detecting autism and providing effective interventions and supports for people on the spectrum throughout their lifespan.
• Increasing access to high-quality services and supports for people with ASD throughout the world.
• Creating a more compassionate world for all those with an autism spectrum disorder.



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22 Sep 2011, 11:18 pm

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They took down the interview.

It is gone.


why??

I hate that you had such a hard time with this. I can see that you really tried to bridge the gap.
Honestly, I dont know the truth...whether they are lying or WP'ers are stuck in one gear.
But it really shouldn't had been taken down due to some naysayers...there will always be those who disagree.
This is just one step in a many step process to understand each other better.

You are not the first, you wont be the last..the dance continues.
However the attacks on your character is not warrented.
It seems like all the hatred towards Autism Speaks was focused on you by a few individuals which is not right because you were only trying to help.
However it seems you underestimated the fevor that some hate autism speaks, which is the only mistake I think you made.
You are a sensitive soul that really wanted to close the divide....and it was not untill you saw how deep the valley is that you retreated.
Its okay, keep writing, and know that this rift between us and Autism Speaks was not created in one day, nor will it be solved in one day.
But you tried, and that is more than most of us can say.

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22 Sep 2011, 11:42 pm

For every successful person, lies a pack of haters.



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22 Sep 2011, 11:43 pm

It is ok. It got ugly. When they started bullying my kid sister, who was hurt and stood up for me, it was the last straw.

But I'm getting some really cool offers. I've never been so happy... or exhausted. I'm a real writer!



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22 Sep 2011, 11:44 pm

I saw the thread on AFF. Bet you weren't expecting to get burned at the stake! A lot of aspies are fearful of openness with strangers and wary to the point of paranoia about threats. It's not part of the condition, just how they learned to deal with the world. If you want to help them, short of becoming a therapist, you may have to work alone.



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22 Sep 2011, 11:58 pm

My Speaking and Listening article was taken down as well.