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13 Jun 2012, 8:00 pm

instead of endlessly argueing about what autistic people are or are not why dont just accept there are many different types of autistic people
and take it from there.a different solution for different autistics instead of finding one solution


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13 Jun 2012, 8:09 pm

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instead of endlessly argueing about what autistic people are or are not why dont just accept there are many different types of autistic people
and take it from there.a different solution for different autistics instead of finding one solution


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13 Jun 2012, 9:21 pm

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instead of endlessly argueing about what autistic people are or are not why dont just accept there are many different types of autistic people
and take it from there.a different solution for different autistics instead of finding one solution


That I can agree with. In fact that's all that really needs to be done.


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13 Jun 2012, 9:47 pm

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instead of endlessly argueing about what autistic people are or are not why dont just accept there are many different types of autistic people
and take it from there.a different solution for different autistics instead of finding one solution


Yes, and it takes many different organizations and associated efforts to attempt to provide those solutions. No one organization, group, or individual can do it all. All efforts that provide net beneficial results for individuals with autism spectrum disorders, are worthy causes.



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14 Jun 2012, 5:38 am

i finaly made a post that people actualy like,my posts usualy get condecending remarks


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17 Jun 2012, 12:15 pm

Cornflake wrote:
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Didn't read many replies
If only you'd bothered reading the thread you might have gained a broader, more informed view...

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There are plenty of autistic people who don't need help but help is trying to be forced on them in the form of "social skills", harmful medications, etc.
Actual attempts are being made to force help? How is that done - are people tied down or something?
Otherwise, what nostromo said.


Hmm, I don't particularly like your tone. No one is forcing me to read through all the responses. I was just speaking off the top of my head from my own experience.

My parents put me in a social skills class once (more or less forced) and I found it highly offensive. I had very little say in the matter.

Also, I am not completely uninformed. My parents attend meetings all the time and I hate that they do it. My opinion is just as valid as anyone else's. You know what I might not even have Asperger's but I'm talking about the hysteria, you know the hysteria. Too many people are treated as if they are disabled when they are not.

If I have Aspergers it is not my disability. My disability is depression.

I don't speak for everyone. I just say for the first thing that pops into my head most of the time.



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18 Jun 2012, 2:45 am

Delphiki wrote:
@theimperiousdork: Isn't it hypocritical that you are going on this site and telling us how autism speaks is bad? It is apparant that you know that autism speaks helps fund this site, but you are still using it. Yes it is to spread the truth, sure, but you are still using a site funded by autism speaks.


You are new to this site. Before Autism Speaks even joined in this place needed no funding. This place was SUPPOSED to be for autistics to actually have a place where they can feel comfortable in their own skin.



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18 Jun 2012, 8:33 am

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@theimperiousdork: Isn't it hypocritical that you are going on this site and telling us how autism speaks is bad? It is apparant that you know that autism speaks helps fund this site, but you are still using it. Yes it is to spread the truth, sure, but you are still using a site funded by autism speaks.


You are new to this site. Before Autism Speaks even joined in this place needed no funding. This place was SUPPOSED to be for autistics to actually have a place where they can feel comfortable in their own skin.


I agree. I am one of the old ones -- those who signed up to this place when Plank still had his principles on. Then the criminal-minded group known as Autism Speaks took over (with Plank's consent, of course), in the attempt of winning back the very people they alienated and vilified, and that changed how I perceived this place.

Clearly, Delphiki, you don't understand what you are talking about. I know that the Mafiosi "helps" fund this site, and like I mentioned before, I am speaking against the evil organisation in their own arena -- or should I say, in an arena that they sponsor using the money they defrauded from paranoids.


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18 Jun 2012, 10:50 am

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Before Autism Speaks even joined in this place needed no funding.
And then the membership grew and grew... the bandwidth requirements increased... the data storage requirements increased... There's only so much can be done out of Alex's pocket for free.
Oh wait, it still is free for you to use WP.

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This place was SUPPOSED to be for autistics to actually have a place where they can feel comfortable in their own skin.
It still is. You think that because Autism Speaks funds the place this is somehow prevented?
I don't see it leaping in to censor things or dictate what people should say, do you?


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18 Jun 2012, 10:57 am

TheygoMew wrote:
Delphiki wrote:
@theimperiousdork: Isn't it hypocritical that you are going on this site and telling us how autism speaks is bad? It is apparant that you know that autism speaks helps fund this site, but you are still using it. Yes it is to spread the truth, sure, but you are still using a site funded by autism speaks.


You are new to this site. Before Autism Speaks even joined in this place needed no funding. This place was SUPPOSED to be for autistics to actually have a place where they can feel comfortable in their own skin.
Okay I am sorry, I am new :doh: Disregard the possibility that I could have lurked here for months

@imperiousdork "clearly I do not know what I am talking about" Really? Why do you keep going on about that people need to show you proof about that Autism speaks isn't "mafiaso" but when aghogday does you immediatly say it is biased even though it is from a third party source.


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18 Jun 2012, 11:09 am

Cornflake wrote:
TheygoMew wrote:
Before Autism Speaks even joined in this place needed no funding.
And then the membership grew and grew... the bandwidth requirements increased... the data storage requirements increased... There's only so much can be done out of Alex's pocket for free.
Oh wait, it still is free for you to use WP.

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This place was SUPPOSED to be for autistics to actually have a place where they can feel comfortable in their own skin.
It still is. You think that because Autism Speaks funds the place this is somehow prevented?
I don't see it leaping in to censor things or dictate what people should say, do you?


So wait, you're acknowledging that Autism Speaks is partially funding WP.net directly now? I thought they only partly funded the Autism Talk TV as an underwriter.


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18 Jun 2012, 11:32 am

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So wait, you're acknowledging that Autism Speaks is partially funding WP.net directly now? I thought they only partly funded the Autism Talk TV as an underwriter.
You are sorely mistaken if you're attempting to elevate me into some sort of official spokesman for WP when the ToS already states I am not.
Maybe you'd like to take up the "who funds what now?" issue with theimperiousdork, who apparently knows the "real truth" about Autism Speaks.


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18 Jun 2012, 12:33 pm

Cornflake wrote:
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So wait, you're acknowledging that Autism Speaks is partially funding WP.net directly now? I thought they only partly funded the Autism Talk TV as an underwriter.
You are sorely mistaken if you're attempting to elevate me into some sort of official spokesman for WP when the ToS already states I am not.
Maybe you'd like to take up the "who funds what now?" issue with theimperiousdork, who apparently knows the "real truth" about Autism Speaks.


In that case, if you can't speak on any official capacity about WP then your answer to TheygoMew is just unsupported speculation then. Fair enough.


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18 Jun 2012, 12:50 pm

Delphiki wrote:
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Delphiki wrote:
@theimperiousdork: Isn't it hypocritical that you are going on this site and telling us how autism speaks is bad? It is apparant that you know that autism speaks helps fund this site, but you are still using it. Yes it is to spread the truth, sure, but you are still using a site funded by autism speaks.


You are new to this site. Before Autism Speaks even joined in this place needed no funding. This place was SUPPOSED to be for autistics to actually have a place where they can feel comfortable in their own skin.
Okay I am sorry, I am new :doh: Disregard the possibility that I could have lurked here for months

@imperiousdork "clearly I do not know what I am talking about" Really? Why do you keep going on about that people need to show you proof about that Autism speaks isn't "mafiaso" but when aghogday does you immediatly say it is biased even though it is from a third party source.


Because they are "Mafiosi." (Check your spelling, please!) And aghogday isn't exactly as reliable like you were assuming he is. Remember when he initially denied working for that vile group, when I called him out asking if he worked for them:

aghogday wrote:
No, I'm not part of the organization.


but in another instance, in an attempt to further bash the truth and give you a dosage of TL;DR lies (which he purports to as the "truth"), the fish gets hooked by the mouth:

aghogday wrote:
I as well as any other contributor to the discussions that keep the greenlighted "Autism Speaks" advertisements glowing at the top of the topics of threads in this discussion forum, are all volunteers of the organization, helping to ensure that that the free advertising does not die.


Contradicting, isn't it? Do you even call that "credible"? Even if my bias is against that evil group, at least I remain consistent and solid in delivering the facts. Hard or not in your opinion, it is your call.

Bottom line is, aghogday is a spokesperson of the Nazi group known to you as Autism Speaks, and will continue to spread their propaganda in this Web site. Beware.


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18 Jun 2012, 12:55 pm

Nexus wrote:
Cornflake wrote:
Nexus wrote:
So wait, you're acknowledging that Autism Speaks is partially funding WP.net directly now? I thought they only partly funded the Autism Talk TV as an underwriter.
You are sorely mistaken if you're attempting to elevate me into some sort of official spokesman for WP when the ToS already states I am not.
Maybe you'd like to take up the "who funds what now?" issue with theimperiousdork, who apparently knows the "real truth" about Autism Speaks.


In that case, if you can't speak on any official capacity about WP then your answer to TheygoMew is just unsupported speculation then. Fair enough.


I agree with you, Nexus.

As for you, Cornflake, thank you for giving me that notion. I needed that, given the multiple contradictions people get from here every time.


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18 Jun 2012, 1:18 pm

theimperiousdork wrote:
Delphiki wrote:
TheygoMew wrote:
Delphiki wrote:
@theimperiousdork: Isn't it hypocritical that you are going on this site and telling us how autism speaks is bad? It is apparant that you know that autism speaks helps fund this site, but you are still using it. Yes it is to spread the truth, sure, but you are still using a site funded by autism speaks.


You are new to this site. Before Autism Speaks even joined in this place needed no funding. This place was SUPPOSED to be for autistics to actually have a place where they can feel comfortable in their own skin.
Okay I am sorry, I am new :doh: Disregard the possibility that I could have lurked here for months

@imperiousdork "clearly I do not know what I am talking about" Really? Why do you keep going on about that people need to show you proof about that Autism speaks isn't "mafiaso" but when aghogday does you immediatly say it is biased even though it is from a third party source.


Because they are "Mafiosi." (Check your spelling, please!) And aghogday isn't exactly as reliable like you were assuming he is. Remember when he initially denied working for that vile group, when I called him out asking if he worked for them:

aghogday wrote:
No, I'm not part of the organization.


but in another instance, in an attempt to further bash the truth and give you a dosage of TL;DR lies (which he purports to as the "truth"), the fish gets hooked by the mouth:

aghogday wrote:
I as well as any other contributor to the discussions that keep the greenlighted "Autism Speaks" advertisements glowing at the top of the topics of threads in this discussion forum, are all volunteers of the organization, helping to ensure that that the free advertising does not die.


Contradicting, isn't it? Do you even call that "credible"? Even if my bias is against that evil group, at least I remain consistent and solid in delivering the facts. Hard or not in your opinion, it is your call.

Bottom line is, aghogday is a spokesperson of the Nazi group known to you as Autism Speaks, and will continue to spread their propaganda in this Web site. Beware.
Clearly you need to work on your reading comprehension. The quote you pulled from aghogday's post is saying that everyone in this thead is being a volunteer for that organization. He is saying that you are as much as him, because it is ensuring that the free advertising does not die.

How is it a Nazi group?


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