Asperger's and Being Considered "Disabled"

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I saw a magazine advertisement aimed at neurotypicals that said to use a synthetic oil which is supposed to last longer and to totally defeat its purpose by change it every 3000 miles. laughing out loud ! In this day and age are there people who insist on throwing away their money by changing oil 5 times a year? Yes and these people think that you are insane if you don't follow their advice.

Well I define it as someone who has a normal functioning brain...so I would not say people with those disorders are neurotypical. But some people mean it as anyone who's not autistic.

and?

Unfortunately most autistics cannot choose to belong to the neurotypical group, because of precisely this: the strict comfomity expected of people who want to "pass". This is, however, not just neurotypical group think. I keep popping in and out of WP becauuse I see the same here. This entire thread is dominated by people who do not want to be considered disabled, while what should really matter is not if you are disabled or not, but what your strenths and limitations (which everyone has) are. For example, I am disabled because I am blind, quite significantly autistic and mentally ill. I don't mind people pointing this out. What does bother me, is when people say that because I have these limitations, I cannot be part of "regular" society. This includes autistics (not necessarily here).

This isn't a new idea or one aimed at neurotypicals; it is a marketing technique aimed at everyone responsible for maintenance on a personal vehicle. Most every car manufacturer recommends oil change at a 3,000 mile interval in severe driving conditions, regardless of the type of oil that is used, many people do encounter severe conditions in driving. Most everyone in the US does in the Summer time.

This isn't false advertising it is based in part on fact, per vehicle manufacturer recommendations.

And certainly not limited to magazine advertisements that market synethetic oil. Almost every place that changes oil, puts a sticker on the windshield recommending an oil change per the next 3,000 mile interval and/or 3 month interval, regardless of whether or not synthetic oil is used. It doesn't mean that the majority of individuals are going to follow through on the recommendation. Nor does anyone likely look at one funny at the shop if they come in twice a year to have their oil changed instead of 4 times a year. At least not where I live.

The synthetic oil advertisements, dealerships, and service shops, would go out of business, if they didn't use marketing techniques, that were equivalent to their competitors.

Some people do buy off on the idea but neurotypicals are no more likely to buy off on it, than non-neurotypicals responsible for their vehicles maintenance, it could very well be more likely that non-neurotypicals adhere to the routine suggested by the dealerships, and/or service shops, because adherence to routine and structure is part of the condition.

That hasn't been studied as far as I know, among individuals with ASD's, but it's common sense, considering what the symptoms are in ASD's. However many people with ASD's don't drive at all, so it not an issue at all for many diagnosed with an ASD. The much larger issue is not being able to drive, or difficulty in driving that many with ASD's encounter. That in itself can be a very limiting factor in life, when other means of transportation are not available.

As far as the facts even non-synthetic oil has been tested good at after 13,000 mile intervals, per the link below. This problem is perpetuated by car manufacturers, that continue to insist upon the same guidelines for oil changes that they have for the last several decades, even though technology in both cars and the quality of oil, has reduced the actual intervals needed to maintain proper maintence in a vehicle.

However if they were to start suggesting twice a year instead of four times a year, it would be devastating to the entire service industry, that gains most of their business from the routine oil change. The price of cars in dealerships, would likely go up, if this policy was changed, to adjust for lost revenue in service shops, in the dealerships.

It's a free world though, no one has to take the bait, if they are informed.

The other aspect though not often mentioned is that many people pay no mind to their vehicle tires as far inspection or air pressure in tires. The 4 visits a year to the dealership and the service shop, has likely saved lives, because for many this is the only place that these details are focused upon.

Another choice that people could easily take care of themselves, but it's something that many individuals leave up to the service stations or dealership. Back in the old days when people actually pumped the gas for you, they took care of these details, along with wiping the windshields, checking oil, and all type of conveniences, hard to imagine now that was at one point the experience everytime someone got a fill up on gas.

There was no self service gas stations at that point in time. If that hadn't of changed gas would probably be $10 a gallon by now. Back in those days of full service gas stations it was 19 cents a gallon, in the US, in the middle 60's.

http://www.edmunds.com/car-care/stop-changing-your-oil.html

why do you say the add was aimed at neurotypicals.the add was aimed at the entire general public.what does autie vs. n.t have to do with oil changes.actualy my auto mechanic is not a neurotypical because my auto mechanic is john robison believe it or not and i just paid him $4500 a few days ago to fix my antique mercedes that takes 8 quarts of synthetic motor oil and only needs to be changed once every 10k miles

That's a good point. There are probably lots of people pretty close to a diagnosis or on the broader autism phenotype, that are auto mechanics. Who knows, the individuals that invented synthetic oil could of been somewhere on that broader spectrum. Or even the folks from Germany originating Mercedes Benz.

Karl Benz was considered a genius of his time, that changed the world with his inventions leading to gas powered automobiles.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Benz



Karl Benz likely wouldn't have qualified for an actual autism spectrum diagnosis, if they were provided back in those days, but also not likely that his brain and neurology were typical, among others in the general population.

That is one of the drawbacks of the term neurotypical; when it is used to describe characteristics of individuals in the general public, beyond anything other than who is diagnosed with an autism spectrum disorder or who isn't. As discussed many times before the broader autism spectrum extends much further out into the population, with at least one autistic trait measured in 30 percent of the population, in two studies, one in the US, and one in Sweden.

I enjoyed looking at the synthetic oil advertisements; I was a proud part of that target audience. But, I only changed my oil twice a year.

I would assume his point was them claiming longer durability and still recomend change every 3000 miles, just like anyone els (I wouldn't know, I don't live where this where adverticed.), but that's just me.

That was part of his point, but not the part of his point that myself and vermontsavant were disagreeing with. The part that we were disagreeing with was that the advertisement was aimed at neurotypicals. Synthetic Oil Manufacturers in the United States do not exclude anyone with a disability, including those with autism spectrum disorders, from their target audience in advertising. The products are available at service shops in the US, and the work can be done by others, for the majority of the American Public that don't care to do it themselves.

My car stipulates 20,000km Oil changes, when we got it I decided I would stick to 10,000km changes like I always have (change it myself) since that seemed more prudent, 10,000 ticked around, then 12..15..18, finally change it at 20,000 as per the schedule and thought "well actually that does save some hassle after all"

very perceptive aghogday that was precisly my point.where was neurotypical vs autistic in the demographic anywhere in that add.that advertisment was aimed at any person who owns a automobile.

i don't think people with AS should be called Disabled

if i remeber right inenst AS a nurological disabilty

the only reason why autism is a disability is because we are a minority.

Then why shouldn't people with AS be considered disabled if its a neurological disability?

Yeah I am sure if we were the majority my sensory issues would go away, my mental processing speed would increase and all my problems with socializing would just go away.

Intresting, I find it more bothersome when people think regardless of those things(outside of the blindness as I am not blind but I have autism and am mentally ill) I have an obligation to be part of 'regular' society. Well what if I don't want to?