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Are you liberal or Conservative?
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31 May 2018, 2:24 am

I am a Libertarian Capitalist Whatever that falls under I like both traditional values and progressive policies I am a pragmatic person.



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31 May 2018, 2:25 am

I never really labeled myself politically.



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31 May 2018, 2:53 am

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Given the tendencies for aspies to connect with the physical world and what is measurable, one would expect more actual research.

I found this: http://journals.plos.org/plosone/articl ... ne.0052970. Hopefully, most of you are aware that the amygdala of aspies is smaller than those of NT's (actually it is said to be poorly functioning). Note that the plosone article says that the amygdala is smaller. But both aspies and aspers also really do have more empathy. Aspies are just poor at expressing it. So... As far as I can tell, there is a measurable commonality of the brains of aspies and liberals. Both tend to be more cerebral and less reactive / emotional. So, not an opinion. Aspies have, on average, measurably more liberal brains. FWIW do research on aspies and empathy. The Jury is out, but the evidence appears that aspies have at least as much empathies as NT's

can you tell me how this squares with the abundance of decidedly non-empathetic far-right-wingers on this site? :scratch:



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31 May 2018, 10:28 am

can you tell me how this squares with the abundance of decidedly non-empathetic far-right-wingers on this site? :scratch:

The vast majority of people stop thinking sometime before 40, usually before 30. Very few have any training or education in science. The tendency of a person to post has little if any correlation with with the actual knowledge and a lot more to do with their degree of Dunning Kruger. When you are dealing with large bodies of fuzzy squishy things from bugs to diseases to humans to eco systems then any generalization you make will, if you are lucky and have actually done some research as opposed to navel gazing, your observations will be valid for 60 to 80% of the population. Thus the validity of the aphorism "all generalizations are false, including this one". Which is just a whitty? way of saying that there will be exceptions to such rules.

Now lets look at definitions: CONSERVATIVE: noun 1. a person who is averse to change and holds to traditional values and attitudes, typically in relation to politics.

Now lets consider a useful definition of stupid: STUPID as being unwilling or unable to learn new stuff.

So, auntoblabby: Hopefully this answers your question. Not sure how much of the first paragraph applies to you. Probably at least a lack of education / training in science. My guess is that I spent at least an hour doing research on the net before publishing. And you spent, maybe 5 min. This would indicate dunning kruger.


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28 Nov 2018, 4:27 pm

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It sure seems that way sometimes.

The majority of psychologists are white, heteronormative, and middle-class, and the majority of diagnosed autistics who receive assistance are in that same demographic; this creates an environment which favors the values, attitudes, and experiences of the majority while neglecting the needs of the minority (social privilege).

Unfortunately it's an uphill battle to convince these people that privilege even exists. The first step toward eliminating privilege is to admit that you have it.


I am not sure this is accurate, partially true, I agree about the psychologists, although I do not know the statistical numbers but other factors to weigh in, not all but,some minorities don't want the stigma of a mental issue, less comfortable in the community talking about mental issues, so I don't think you can just say social privilege, there is certainly an economic privilege, in capitalist societies.



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28 Nov 2018, 5:53 pm

out of my aspie sibs, i'm the only liberal.



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28 Nov 2018, 6:49 pm

I think I'm definetly liberal but like many Aspies I hate change too.



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28 Nov 2018, 8:32 pm

In my experience, aspies tend to lean libertarian more than they lean conservative or liberal. I'd guess it has to do with the aspie aversion to social situations. Being free to be left alone is often very appealing to those on the spectrum, and libertarianism is more or less built around that. Of course, I'm American so most of the libertarians or anarchists on the spectrum I've met tend toward conservative, but I can't really speak for Europe or anywhere else.


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29 Nov 2018, 8:38 am

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Are aspies more likely to be conservative?

No, but Study links low intelligence with right-wing beliefs.



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01 Dec 2018, 8:18 pm

TW1ZTY wrote:
I think I'm definetly liberal but like many Aspies I hate change too.


Huh?? Are you even remotely familiar with the definition of liberal and conservative? That is a rhetorical question. Here is the actual definition: noun 1. a person who is averse to change and holds to traditional values and attitudes, typically in relation to politics.

and here is LIBERAL: tolerant of change; not bound by authoritarianism, orthodoxy, or tradition. You can, of course, go all humpty dupty: from "Through the Looking Glass": “When I use a word,” Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, “it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less.” “The question is,” said Alice, “whether you can make words mean so many different things.” “The question is,” said Humpty Dumpty, “which is to be master—that's all.”
and have all sorts of definitions of liberal and conservative. Which simply muddies the waters.

Aspies, being adverse to change are, by definition, conservative.. Unless you are like me who is an aspie who has seldon avoided new stuff, and in fact frequently always sought out change, and interactions with others.

Aspies will be conservatives, and may still want the gov to "do stuff". But that does not make them liberals since almost all conservatives want to use the power of the state to force people to behave in "approved ways". Just think of all the "moral laws" relating to sex and drugs that conservatives want to jam down the throats of everyone. I could go on.

But back to the question. If you are literate, and understand the meaning of words, than almost all aspies are born, live, and die conservative.


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03 Dec 2018, 8:26 pm

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TW1ZTY wrote:
I think I'm definetly liberal but like many Aspies I hate change too.


Huh?? Are you even remotely familiar with the definition of liberal and conservative? That is a rhetorical question. Here is the actual definition: noun 1. a person who is averse to change and holds to traditional values and attitudes, typically in relation to politics.

and here is LIBERAL: tolerant of change; not bound by authoritarianism, orthodoxy, or tradition. You can, of course, go all humpty dupty: from "Through the Looking Glass": “When I use a word,” Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, “it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less.” “The question is,” said Alice, “whether you can make words mean so many different things.” “The question is,” said Humpty Dumpty, “which is to be master—that's all.”
and have all sorts of definitions of liberal and conservative. Which simply muddies the waters.

Aspies, being adverse to change are, by definition, conservative.. Unless you are like me who is an aspie who has seldon avoided new stuff, and in fact frequently always sought out change, and interactions with others.

Aspies will be conservatives, and may still want the gov to "do stuff". But that does not make them liberals since almost all conservatives want to use the power of the state to force people to behave in "approved ways". Just think of all the "moral laws" relating to sex and drugs that conservatives want to jam down the throats of everyone. I could go on.

But back to the question. If you are literate, and understand the meaning of words, than almost all aspies are born, live, and die conservative.


What the f**k is your point? Yeah I support liberal views but don't like change. What the hell does that have to do with anything you just said? You're not making any sense! :roll:



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03 Dec 2018, 8:35 pm

Let me put it like this: I hate the bad kind of change. I'm all for changing things for the better.



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03 Dec 2018, 11:01 pm

The fact that you do not understand what I wrote does not mean that it does not make sense.

And what exactly does "bad" mean, other than you do not like it? I suggest that you become familiar with the concept of english prime and see if you can state your ideas without using most forms of the verb "to be". Or as some practitioners say, stop speaking like a god who can actually say "what is".

and what does "better" mean other than you like it.?


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21 Dec 2018, 12:15 am

I’m currently registered as a Republican, but I think I am moving towards a more independent position. I am starting to advocate more since graduating college and I want to vote for the person who would advance the interests of the autism community as a whole



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21 Dec 2018, 12:18 am

GOPers have shown me time and again how they wanna make life tougher for this aspie. no thanx.



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21 Dec 2018, 1:11 am

Unfortunately, besides not wanting change, conservatives also avoid, and are afraid of, anything that is "different". That would be gays, people of color, immigrants, etc. etc. So, people like us, who live in the uncanny valley, represent everything that scares republicans / conservatives. If you think that this is strange, consider blacks, long time victims of discrimination, but more than almost any other group, are anti-gay. Yet there are a few black republicans / conservatives. Maybe even a gay black conservative. Probably deeply in therapy :-)


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