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Just got a 'friendly' email from the wonderfully 'suprior' site owner:

Hi

All I know is this,,,, is I will help in the search in the cure for my 2 boys and
this PLAGUE that has taken over there life and you will suffer the same fate , It you
mother f**** ever log on my site again and post that f***ing sh** .
Because I will find you and I will gut you like a f***ing pig in front of your
family !Do you understand me you sorry mother f**** ! You make me sick.
With your bull sh** claims ,Just because you think you can draw some kind of'
check you are going to post this sh** ! My God you sorry mother fu*kers .
Go f**k off !


Thanks and
Have a nice day until you say this sh** to my face and the day will be over !

Stacy Goodson


Oh dear, someone needs to work on their communication skills (yes I do rather enjoy the irony). All I can say is I am terribly sorry for those two boys, if they grow up with any self esteem with that kind of maternal instinct I'll be suprised.

You know, if anyone actually bothered to do some research instead of 'oh my god my child can't be different to all the others' they would help their childrens prospects far better than searching for a cure for something that is just them.

lau, what are your credentials? Look at this evidence about IQs:
http://www.springerlink.com/content/580 ... ltext.html
http://www.brainy-child.com/expert/auti ... test.shtml
http://doctorcushing.com/_wsn/page19.html
I don't care about the opinion of every disingenuous aspie who wants to call the shots. They haven't provided evidence. Aspies aren't severe autistics. There aren't any people that don't want to be intelligent, autistic or not. Propaganda will not dupe enough people into believing that many autistics want to be mentally weak. How many autistics don't want the ability of others? I don't care what you want. For all I know, you have enough. You and other non-impaired aspies shouldn't be trying to make anti-cure choices for the low-functioning.

Is that allowed on this forum? Posting someones address and/or phone number?

Posting someones address and/or phone doesn't seem right to me. I think that should be removed, in my opinion.

I've taken tests that show my IQ as near mental retardation then I have IQs saying I'm highly advanced to a near genius level. IQ doesn't mean anything ...

One anecdote like that doesn't invalidate IQ. There's no way it doesn't mean anything, because professionals/scientists wouldn't be using it if it didn't mean anything.

...Then you get me into "research mode". And I find these attributed to Josh Billings (real name Henry Wheeler Shaw):
"It's not ignorance does so much damage; it's knowin' so derned much that ain't so."
http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/autho ... _shaw.html
"It is better to know nothing than to know what ain't so. "
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so. "

However, none of those are quite the one you gave, which seems to be attributed to Sam in various places.

Ain't the internet fun.

really? this is not uncommon especially among geniuses (not saying I am one but for some reason people who are considered geniuses especially artistic geniuses have been shown to have differing IQS). IQ's validity has been challenged for years since you have people who are very gifted receiving low or conflicting iq scores. Now you can hold on to IQ as a determiner of whatever but since there are people with very low iqs making breakthoughs in every area, and demonstrating all the traits an IQ test is supposed to measure I think that pretty much invalidates it. Theres just too much to quantify that an IQ test fails to do.

How can someone be very gifted but have low IQ? Even if the IQ scores varied dramatically, why shouldn't it be recognized that the eventual high IQ scores they attained are indicative of their giftedness? I wonder at what ages such low IQ scores were measured among those with conflicting IQ scores. What kind of breakthroughs could someone with a very low IQ make? A few exceptions to such expectations about IQ aren't invalidating. The correlations aren't 100%.

Feynman's IQ was 126 (bio)
Watson's IQ was 124 (bio)
William Shockley's was 129, then 125 when tested a year later (his 2007 bio)
Luis Alvarez's was below 135 (he failed to qualify for Terman study)
<--- those are scientists with low iqs (not low ilike the results I received near mental retardation but still low for such gifted individuals. ) Thats just doing a quick yahoo search considering most scientists would hide such information because the scientific world would be prejudiced towards their ideas.

Those aren't low IQs. I wonder in what proportion that the specific components of intelligence that are more important to the science they did, have contributed to their IQ scores.

Richard Phillips Feynman (IPA: /ˈfaɪnmən/; May 11, 1918 – February 15, 1988) was an American physicist known for the path integral formulation of quantum mechanics, the theory of quantum electrodynamics and the physics of the superfluidity of supercooled liquid helium, as well as work in particle physics (he proposed the parton model).

William Bradford Shockley (February 13, 1910 – August 12, 1989) was a British-born American physicist and inventor.

Along with John Bardeen and Walter Houser Brattain, Shockley co-invented the transistor, for which all three were awarded the 1956 Nobel Prize in Physics. Shockley's attempts to commercialize a new transistor design in the 1950s and 1960s led to California's "Silicon Valley" becoming a hotbed of electronics innovation. In his later life, Shockley was a professor at Stanford, and he also became a staunch advocate of eugenics.[1]

Luis W. Alvarez (June 13, 1911, San Francisco, California – September 1, 1988) was an American physicist and inventor, who spent nearly all of his long professional career on the faculty of the University of California, Berkeley. The prestigious American Journal of Physics commented, "Luis Alvarez (1911–1988) was one of the most brilliant and productive experimental physicists of the twentieth century."[1]

He was the author of 168 published papers in scientific journals, mostly in the field of physics, and was elected to the National Academy of Science in 1947 and the National Academy of Engineering in 1969. He was a member of the American Physical Society, a fellow in 1939, and served as President in 1969. He was awarded the Collier Trophy by the National Aeronautics Association in 1946. The trophy was presented by President Truman; and won the Presidential Medal for Merit in 1947. In 1960 he was named California Scientist of the Year; in 1961 he won the Albert Einstein Award. In 1963 he was presented the National Medal of Science by Lyndon B. Johnson; in 1965 the Michelson Award; in 1978 he received the University of Chicago Alumni Medal and was inducted into the National Inventors Hall of Fame. In 1987, the USA Department of Energy granted him its Enrico Fermi award.[2]


He won the Nobel Prize in Physics in 1968, and received over 40 patents, some of which proved commercially viable.

Sinsboldy, you attributed that quote to the wrong person. It's the famous misquote who Mr. Wilson attributed to the wrong person. Herbert Spencer never wrote or said anything that resembles the quote you wrote above. A man by the name of William H. Poole is the one that should be credited for that particular quote. In his book Anglo-Israel or, The British Nation: The Lost Tribes of Israel (1879) he wrote on the title page;

Although, William H. Poole attributes the quote to a man named William Paley. Pretty neat, isn't it. Sadly though, that famous misquote will stay in the book Mr. Wilson co-wrote/wrote. I'm assuming you probably don't really care that much.

I didn't want this to pass without comment, though my comment may not fit the topic of this thread:


You cannot have gone through that crucible unscathed or unchanged (even if you were unaware that the daily roast in the oven was you). But you can, as you have, pass through hell successfully - recognizing benefits from having survived it. Simple problems of everyday life are now mere nothings by comparison! You have gained skills that enable you to more easily navigate bad situations. You gain perspective attainable no other way. You learn deep empathy and concern for the feelings and welfare of others. You become aware of your impact on others, and try to cause others no harm if possible. You learn the benefit of choosing a life of effort over one of comfort. You learn to value daily struggle.

You emerge from it a silver wolf! The silver wolf you are today would not have resulted from a life of problem-free ease, simplicity, and a catering to your every whim. Or even from a "normal" one.

You see the value in having passed through hell, and the resulting change in your core and inner being, even if no one else can. You will carry this gift with you all of your days, and it cannot be taken from you.

That is why you do see that the life struggle that living with autism (a struggle - not from autism itself, but from navigating a non-autistic world with an autistic brain) brings is not necessarily bad, and that autistic people will gain gifts - gifts attainable only through this lifelong hardship. And you, through your own life experience, have seen that the hardship lessens as one gains insights and skills, which then also become gifts.

And that is why people who have not struggled in such a way cannot see and are unable to see any possible benefit to living such a life.