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05 Aug 2011, 12:30 pm

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If autistics adopt a strategy of equality as part of their advocacy then neurotypicals will win by default because what this means is that at best autistics are no better than neurotypicals and at worst we autistics are a bunch of ret*d mentally ill deviants. On the otherhand what autism supremacy recognizes is that autism is another word for genius and this opinion is being backed up by more and more medical professionals.


You continually look lessor upon people with cognitive differences. Using the R word and in the fashion you are is highly disrespectful. Not everyone with autism is a genius nor claims to be. The idea behind equality in disability politics is to even the playing field. I personally will not sympathize with you if you are intolerant of people with disabilities existing who have cognitive difference who as well deserve a more equal playing field. The high and mighty I'm better then you because someone labeled us and therfore oppress us is getting really old. There are differing means of leveling the playing field and some need compassionate means and others just need to work hard at their interest to succeed.


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05 Aug 2011, 12:52 pm

I have edited my post in order to clarify however I think you knew all along that I was reffering to the neurotypical perception of autism which unfortunately is not pretty.

Concerning the question of genius, yes I would have to admit that if a person was told all of his life that he was mentally ill and disabled he would have a very difficult time discovering his genius.



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05 Aug 2011, 12:54 pm

It's not always an either or proposition. I was never told I was mentally ill and my current autism specialist says I am not mentally ill. Some are being far to sensitive and taking it to the extreme.


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05 Aug 2011, 2:26 pm

androbot2084 wrote:
If autistics adopt a strategy of equality as part of their advocacy then neurotypicals will win by default because what this means is that at best autistics are no better than neurotypicals and at worst we autistics are considered by neurotypicals to be
a bunch of borderline ret*d mentally ill deviants.


I don't think you understand the idea of equality. If people still believe that we are somehow defective then that isn't equality! You idiot! Stop trying to spam my convictions with your turbid ignorance!



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05 Aug 2011, 2:42 pm

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I have edited my post in order to clarify however I think you knew all along that I was reffering to the neurotypical perception of autism which unfortunately is not pretty.

Concerning the question of genius, yes I would have to admit that if a person was told all of his life that he was mentally ill and disabled he would have a very difficult time discovering his genius.

well i think that the way they raise kids these days is just a form of mind control. you have to break out of the things people have taught you in public schools to see your true genius.



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05 Aug 2011, 5:04 pm

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there is no bad or good. it is a question of quality of life and survival.


Survival does not have to mean stepping on other people.



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05 Aug 2011, 5:07 pm

androbot2084 wrote:
If autistics adopt a strategy of equality as part of their advocacy then neurotypicals will win by default because what this means is that at best autistics are no better than neurotypicals and at worst we autistics are considered by neurotypicals to be
a bunch of borderline ret*d mentally ill deviants. On the otherhand what autism supremacy recognizes is that autism is another word for genius and this opinion is being backed up by more and more medical professionals.


Hate to break it to you but not everyone with autism is a genius.......I know I am not, sure I am intelligent and know how to think outside of the box but that is not too terribly impressive it is to sheeple.



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05 Aug 2011, 5:12 pm

Sweetleaf wrote:
aspie48 wrote:
there is no bad or good. it is a question of quality of life and survival.


Survival does not have to mean stepping on other people.

how do you suggest to survive otherwise?



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05 Aug 2011, 5:27 pm

aspie48 wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
aspie48 wrote:
there is no bad or good. it is a question of quality of life and survival.


Survival does not have to mean stepping on other people.

how do you suggest to survive otherwise?



How do you think? by not stepping on everyone else.......for some reason more seems to get accomplished when people put their petty differences aside and work together. The only way anything will change for the better is if people are educated and can do something about it.....I am all for positive change which is exactly why I have a problem with how things are ran in this country but if you just want to focus on a small percentage of people who discriminate specifically against people with AS and no one else go right ahead, but it won't fix anything.



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05 Aug 2011, 6:03 pm

Well lets put it this way every time the union dispatched me to a job based on seniority the union officials always accused me of cheating a good ( i.e. neurotypical ) carpenter out of a job. If I lost my job before receiving 40 hours worth of pay I would have the right to my seniority on the out of work list which meant I would get first dibs on all of the new jobs. One time I was fired from ten jobs in a row yet I always had first dibs on every new job that came in. even though there were some carpenters who were unemployed for 6 months. I wouldn't call this just stepping on toes but rather major toe crunching.



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05 Aug 2011, 6:15 pm

androbot2084 wrote:
Well lets put it this way every time the union dispatched me to a job based on seniority the union officials always accused me of cheating a good ( i.e. neurotypical ) carpenter out of a job. If I lost my job before receiving 40 hours worth of pay I would have the right to my seniority on the out of work list which meant I would get first dibs on all of the new jobs. One time I was fired from ten jobs in a row yet I always had first dibs on every new job that came in. even though there were some carpenters who were unemployed for 6 months. I wouldn't call this just stepping on toes but rather major toe crunching.


Well that is not right at all but autism supremacy does not solve that problem.



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05 Aug 2011, 6:29 pm

autism supremacy solves every problem that has to be fought for.



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05 Aug 2011, 6:36 pm

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autism supremacy solves every problem that has to be fought for.


How so? you have clearly stated that you think we should mimick the opresser and put people with autism before everyone else regardless. What exactly is that solving other then encouraging you to continue having a superiority complex?



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05 Aug 2011, 7:22 pm

well i just don't think you understand, in order to be yourself you fist have to stay alive and second do what you want. in order to have free will one has to make sure you don't have people trying to control you. this is why you have to dominate these people before they get you. then after that you are free to do whatever you want. some people are opposed to supremacy because they are shy. if this is the cas i would be happy to dominate over others for you.



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05 Aug 2011, 7:30 pm

Any affirmative action policy mimics the oppressor.



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05 Aug 2011, 10:21 pm

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well i just don't think you understand, in order to be yourself you fist have to stay alive and second do what you want. in order to have free will one has to make sure you don't have people trying to control you. this is why you have to dominate these people before they get you. then after that you are free to do whatever you want. some people are opposed to supremacy because they are shy. if this is the cas i would be happy to dominate over others for you.


Uhh you're hopeless, you don't seem to understand I do not like opression period.....not if I am the opressed and not if I were the opressor. It is something I am strongly opposed to as I think everyone should be. I am not shy I just don't feel like I need to abuse others to get what I want.