Grrrr, vaccine ARE connected with autism. >.< That's a

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For the record, I may be anti-vaccine but I don't believe thimerosal is to blame for autism (at least not solely, if it was it'd have to be part of something far more complex). Mercury poisoning and autism are - clearly - two different things.

But contrary to popular belief, thimerosal wasn't taken out of vaccines in 2001 - it's still in quite a few, including all new influenza vaccines.

For the record, the flu vaccine is the ONLY one in the US that has thiomersal - and a thiomersal free version is available on request.

Not true.


From the CDC website

DTaP (Tripedia) -
Aluminum Potassium Sulfate, Ammonium Sulfate, Bovine Extract,
Formaldehyde or Formalin, Gelatin, Polysorbate 80, Sodium Phosphate,
Thimerosal

DTaP/Hib (TriHIBit) -
Aluminum Potassium Sulfate, Ammonium Sulfate, Bovine Extract,
Formaldehyde or Formalin, Gelatin, Polysorbate 80, Sucrose, Thimerosal

DTaP/HepB/IPV (Pediarix) -
Aluminum Hydroxide, Aluminum Phosphate, Bovine Protein, Lactalbumin
Hydrolysate, Formaldehyde or Formalin, Glutaraldhyde, Monkey Kidney
Tissue, Neomycin, 2-Phenoxyethanol, Polymyxin B, Polysorbate 80,
Thimerosal, Yeast Protein

DT (sanofi) -
Aluminum Potassium Sulfate, Bovine Extract, Formaldehyde or Formalin,
Thimerosal (multi-dose) or Thimerosal (single-dose)

Hep B (Engerix-B) -
Aluminum Hydroxide, Phosphate Buffers, Thimerosal, Yeast Protein

HepA/HepB (Twinrix) -
Aluminum Hydroxide, Aluminum Phosphate, Amino Acids, Dextrose,
Formaldehyde or Formalin, Inorganic Salts, MRC-5 Cellular Protein, Neomycin
Sulfate, 2-Phenoxyethanol, Phosphate Buffers, Polysorbate 20, Thimerosal,
Vitamins, Yeast Protein

Influenza (Fluarix) -
Egg Albumin (Ovalbumin), Egg Protein, Formaldehyde or Formalin,
Gentamicin, Hydrocotrisone, Octoxynol-10, "-Tocopheryl Hydrogen Succinate,
Polysorbate 80, Sodium Deoxycholate, Sodium Phosphate, Thimerosal

Influenza (Flulaval) -
Egg Albumin (Ovalbumin), Egg Protein, Formaldehyde or Formalin, Sodium
Deoxycholate, Phosphate Buffers, Thimerosal

Influenza (Fluvirin) -
Beta-Propiolactone , Egg Protein, Neomycin, Polymyxin B, Polyoxyethylene 9-
10 Nonyl Phenol (Triton N-101, Octoxynol 9), Thimerosal (multidose
containers), Thimerosal (single-dose syringes)

Influenza (Fluzone) -
Egg Protein, Formaldehyde or Formalin, Gelatin, Octoxinol-9 (Triton X-100),
Thimerosal (multidose containers)

Japanese Encephalitis (JE-Vax) -
Formaldehyde or Formalin, Gelatin, Mouse Serum Protein, Polysorbate 80,
Thimerosal

Meningococcal (Menomune) -
Lactose, Thimerosal (10-dose vials only)

Rabies (Biorab) -
Aluminum Phosphate, Phosphate Buffers, Rhesus Fetal Lung Tissue,
Thimerosal

Td (Decavac) -
Aluminum Potassium Sulfate, Bovine Extract, Formaldehyde or Formalin, 2-
Phenoxyethanol, Peptone, Thimerosal

Td (Massachusetts)-
Aluminum Hydroxide, Aluminum Phosphate, Formaldehyde or Formalin,
Thimerosal (some multidose containers)




Of those, nine (out of seventeen) state "the product should be considered equivalent to
thimerosal-free products. This vaccine may contain trace amounts (<3 mcg) of mercury left after post-production
thimerosal removal, but these amounts have no biological effect."

So eight still contain thimerosal, and nine still contain it, but suppposedly have no effect. I know many who would beg to differ, but then who would believe the CDC anyway? *insert string of snide comments in posts below*

They have no effect.

You and everyone else need to get the hell over it.

I'm sure they DO have some effect, I just doubt whether that effect is 'autism'. I'm merely pointing out that it IS still in a lot of vaccines, and not just the flu ones. Contrary to popular belief.

Why "Contrary to popular belief"? I know there are trace amounts of thimerosal in the ocean. It doesn't stop me swimming.

Le Kiwi, that list you gave are from vaccines that are EXPORTED to other countries. The thiomersal HAS to be in there to make sure the vaccines survive the trip.

Persevering the preservatives topic

I hope that Le Kiwi is never bitten by a rabid dog.

I have returned from my trip.

Did you miss me?

I'm not getting back into the arguing this particular topic.

DW, I have a thought that needs to be expressed and it has nothing to do with vaccines, but since you mentioned it here, I shall comment on it here.

You said your son is having difficulty learning to write, in fact, it pains him. You said he is having as much difficulty learning to type. From one Aspie who is a mom to a Mom of an aspie, I have one question... Why is it so all fired important that he communicate in writing?

That is NT thinking.

Can he not communicate another way? Is he verbal? If so, they have very good programs that can hear his voice and type it up for him.

What about deaf sign...

What about morse code...

If you've seen Amanda's video, then you should at least have the building blocks to know not to force your square peg into a round hole and instead take the high road and learn to have your son communicate in the way that is easiest and most effective for him.

That is Aspie thinking.

http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/c ... 118/1/e139