I AM CONDUCTING AN INTERVIEW WITH AUTISM SPEAKS

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glad your back

We're glad to have your back.

We're by no means perfect, but we do try.

Now you're just calling vermont an idiot. This is just criminal.

:/ What is this, a tantrum?


I think to be honest you have simply ignored what I have said about catching up on EVERYONE on this forum no matter who they are. You aren't up for some special treatment. He was talking about tambourine_man anyway, a person who you have just called bad news and insulted, a person cornflake showed isn't bad news or should be insulted. That you'd manage to take what vermontsavant said and shift back to me is more indicative of an obsession.

Not that you already hadn't been obsessively condescending to me on the make me moderator thread, a thread where you made no complaints about vermontsavant...

I mean it's funny that you have already been asked not to cause problems before on the Autism Speaks U thread:
I would also like to ask that Zeraeph and aghogday stop derailing the conversation.

I didn't get a mention.



Oh, heavens. Fifth time you have said you would leave...
There is no vicious obsession just like there is no proof of Tambourine man being condescending or harmful.

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Mind if you give us a quote? I'd like to see whether their madness is all that it is.

No there isn't. Personal attack and honesty are very clear when you think about it. For example saying that I am personally attacking you is wrong, because all I have said is that you have no right to attack Tambourine_man at all and that all of your criticisms of me are salacious.

You only ever talk about me after whilst making some condemnation, trying to ignore all the sense I make. I can only think that you are offended to answer me because you'd have to admit to something, like how Tambourine_man is absolutely harmless.

Welcome back!
*wheels in another comfy armchair, fetches cup of tea*

AFF seems to be a modmin-free zone currently. I will sit back and wait and see if the founders can get involved and sort things out. For now it doesn't look so good.

I doubt I will become a regular at WP. Just thought I'd pop my head in and wish Tambourine Man all the best in his new endeavours.

"AFF seems to be a modmin-free zone currently. I will sit back and wait and see if the founders can get involved and sort things out. For now it doesn't look so good."

Amy only gets involved when her power is threatened. A rabble of disorganised, self-indulgent cripples suits her fine. You witnessed AFF in action.

Yesterday morning, I created a thread on AFF entitled "tambourine-man's thoughts on AFF" in the General forum in which I posted the Tambourine-Man's post of yesterday morning in this thread in which he roundly mocked and condemned AFF. I added no editorial comment.

I added two more posts over the course of the day in response to questions as to why I copied the text of the post rather than linking to it. Again, no editorial comment.

His comments were not very well received.

He and his sister posted many times, doing their cause no good whatsoever.

I woke up to some interesting developments.

Gareth, one of the founders of AFF, created a split from that thread:

http://www.aspiesforfreedom.com/showthread.php?tid=23279

Post number 5, by Mechanima, is a scathingly accurate description of the situation and of Tambourine-Man.

It is expresses perfectly how I and several others, including Zeraeph, feel about John-Scott Holman, aka Tambourine-Man .

I will only quote one portion of the post, adding emphasis to some interesting news:

If you read nothing else, I urge you to read that one post.

The thread that I started yesterday on AFF is at:

http://www.aspiesforfreedom.com/showthread.php?tid=23266&page=1

I urge you to get to know our new columnist a bit better. Read the post, read the thread, and think a good while.

Just for the record, both Amy and Gareth, both founders (as I understand it) of AFF, were involved in the discussion yesterday.

Are we starting this all over again?

Yes, everyone check all of it out.

I'm really, really, really tired of all this.

Check it all out. Please, everyone, have a good look at the giant, unwarranted spectacle.

Have a good look and then PLEASE stop talking about it.

Anyone with an ounce of humanity would be disgusted by what went on over there. I can't believe it was allowed and I'm not going back.

It's impossible to know T-M's motives at this stage and it doesn't matter. He was useful, he should have been used. Huge victim mentality means a lot of aspies genuinely believe that interaction will lead to them being taken advantage of. That's tragic because they're only harming themselves.

mechanima wrote, "We will never be able to trust a word they say, they are never going to let us have any real inpurt into their organisation, and it is fatal to take on anyone manipulative unless you have the time, energy, and stomach to manipulate them even better"

So, so wrong. If someone may be manipulative, you don't win by 'out-manipulating' them. You stay honest and let them hang themselves. In the meantime - hey look! - they're actually helping you get stuff you want.

You have Alex, say, doing his videos and using the weight of everyone here to further his ambitions without having to listen to anyone, or T-M, still smalltime so desperately needing to be popular, actually having to listen to people. Stupid mother f*****s.

FOR THE LAST TIME!! !! STOP BAD MOUTHING TAMBOURINE MAN

Well said fraac. If we really think that Autism Speaks is bad, shouldn't we really be trying to be the opposite of what they stand for and how they operate?

Thanks. I'm pretty thick skinned but enough is enough.

I'm honestly confused about what you mean about 'bad mouthing'.

I said I wasn't going to post any more about him. You said that wasn't what you meant - that I could post about him as long as it wasn't 'bad mouthing'.

Gedrene ask for links about what was happening on AFF.

I provided some of those links, with a minimum of editorial comment.

I did not, in any way, 'bad mouth' Tambourine-Man.

I'm afraid I must ask you to be very explicit about what will and will not be tolerated.