On Combating Hate Against A Cure

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Children rights are secondary to cure research and development rights. Strictly speaking a cure may be developed and this is rightful as a human rights option but for adults as well as children the legalities of rights to be cured are another topic so as to implement or not a cure. A cure has been demonized when others with autism choose for it to be created which is evading those dollars with public relations confrontations. A form of intolerance of the human right to choose based on a perceived value of judgement of a disability which others define as simply a difference which is contrary to established laws classifying it as a disability. As if due to self-image and a disorder label they have the right to enforce their personal beliefs or else others are bigots unless they agree.

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Psychiatrists are wrong for classifying autism as only a disability. Many people such as Einstein have found genius through autism.

Not proven he has autism. Also the purpose of disability classification is strictly for the hardships like to receive services, accommodation and or understanding and not necessary when subjectively true the benefits are manifested.

Both are equidistant from autism.

As for people to be incapable of supporting themselves financially though, or have a love life, or make friends, or perhaps be able to even shop in stores where florescent lights abound or who'll be on the ground convulsing if they hear clinking metal - yes, its a pretty big problem.

Einstein cleary had delayed speach when he was growing up. The main objection to diagnosing dead people is that it violates laws against witchcraft which prohibit communication with the dead.

im responding to a couple diferent points.ci doesnt hate his own people to quote someone but just has no tact at all in conversation and i supect because he has classic autism he feels superior to people with other types of autism.@ci as far as the legal issue,obviously if a cure were found lawyers would spend years litigating the legality of the politic of cure.my idea is stickly philosophical and a moral question.making a issue of the law at this point is another way to dodge a question

Yes. I am superior to myself in every way imaginable. Why do others insecurities of their own beliefs deflect from my own ways of thinking as if I am superior to them in their minds and they inferior to me only on matters of pride and cure? What I am trying to articulate is yes I and others will verbally stand up to others who go against the right to cure. There has been allot of nonsense peer pressure bull over the past few years. I do not care one bit about being popular, saying something to fit in or about being member of a people over that which is right and what is right is fundamental freedoms. I do my own thing, I am quite happy and don't intent to go against others rights even if they intend to go against my rights. I am not exactly sure what a cure would mean applied to myself but still yet that's my decision to make and I see through the bull arguments and peer pressure.

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I think the disability part could be taken away with a cure but I don't think the gifts or stengths necessarily could be. At worst someone who's hyperintelligent and has some very marketable and useful form of synaesthesia might be a bit more distracted by a great social and dating life but, in the end, they'd still be a geek and they'd still love their hobbies. Maybe a bit less blood sweat, and tears would be poured into their passions but, they'd still be moving on what they desired.


Part of the reason they don't want to talk to us is they'd have to be born, the sentiment "I ain't ever coming back - suckers!" comes to mind.

It's about time for that time in my thread to interrupt with a music video. I have studied this music video over 300 times.

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The biggest misconception about Einstein is that he achieved greatness in spite of his autism and had Einstein not been handicapped by autism he would have been an even greater genius. This statement simply is not true. The truth is that Einstein found genius through autism. Take away the autism and Einstein is no longer a super hero but just an average person. That is why we have to be very carefull when we consider a cure lest we zap our super powers.

A lot of autistics are not confident because they see neurotypicals acing calculus classes while the autistic struggles with it. But remember while the neurotypical aces the calculus class it is the autistic who invents the calculus.

As far as having a great dating and social life, until society understands and appreciates autistics we will never have a great dating and social life. To give you an example on a few occasions I have met Women who I thought would be a perfect soul mate. And this was not just my opinion. Her best freind told me that we would make the perfect couple. But she just could not get past my autism.

I think it's too easy to use the self-esteem by over-inflating it when one feels inferior to others due to being diagnosed. It's a strategy in politics. Yet let's look at the facts. People that function well in the world which to me means being self-sufficient and able to take care of themselves properly may also be socially unique. Hence they are not disabled they are unique. I myself am very smart at a certain area of study I've learned in part the language to. Most people around me including my mother don't understand it. In fact I am told to quite the psychobabble. Yet people that understand it think I am smart at it. I am still learning language with regards to it but mostly I don't like thinking in words as they are limiting. I can remember being pissed off because I could not find the words to my thoughts and I can definitely write better then I can speak but pre-scripted I can do extremely good speeches.

It's also to easy to blame the world for ones difficulties and think of the disability as not at fualt. If I am like Einstien then I think I just found the theory of subjective relativity to this conversation. Learn to meditate rather then over medicating and do not think of these things to much because they are wastes to potentials as much of it doesn't matter. Ommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

almost all neurotypicals know that einsteins genius was a direct result of autism.no one ive heard thinks einstein overcame any disability.most neurotypicals understand the savant in idiot savant is real.@Ci i dont know what you mean by i dont feel superior to yourself.my comment had nothing do do with mine or anyones insecurities.you come on this forum baiting people with there emotions does not make your point it just alienates people and hinder peoples understanding of your point

Enough with the superiority and inferiority complex it's getting old.

Insecurities of what autism is and how it is portrayed. It is not baiting it is quite clear and just as others do it is debate and is only called baiting because it does not meet the autism is a gift and simply is a difference agenda. I do not think I am at all comparable to Einstein. I think this is a fancy belief designed to make myself feel good about myself if I had insecurity of the idea of autism in me and let's say compared to autism is a disease and epidemic. Yet because it's positive and something I'd like to believe without fact and is quite the opposite of something negative I could resort to it to feel better about myself. Autism is one aspect to a person with allot of other very individualize and unique components that derive self. So should I take the bait autism is the greatest of things always or appear to swallow the harsh reality that exist I see in others who very clearly struggle and need allot of support and understanding. I'd like to know the intents of those who would bait myself and others into believing we are all Einsteins and a cure is akin to some kind of devils work per say.

I would really appreciate you stopping one moment agreeing to what I say then the next acting a victim of what I say as if it is horrible because it is very blunt and to the point. To me this is common sense. To want to dilute oneself with regards to autism as a whole when it is expressed for treatment reasons to help those not like Einstein with it and to then make it out to a great thing to talk oneself into otherwise is about insecurity of the self and the image \ understanding of autism the disorder in society. The fault with this autism concept is it is to wide of a spectrum and at this time I understand that autism is a real disorder and people with it can also be really smart but autism being akin to genius all the time is false becuase I am no genuis therefore I must be neurotypical

Einstein was never diagnosed with autism. He could have had it. Yet not everyone with autism will end up like Einstein and that is a fact.

Nathan

I you persist in this abusive and intolerant manner you will forfeit any sympathy and support you may have.