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09 Nov 2011, 9:24 am

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How can they know that you are different?Telepathic powers?
How we act?
Its obvious to most folks.



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09 Nov 2011, 10:04 am

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Gedrene wrote:
JohnyJohn wrote:
How can they know that you are different?Telepathic powers?
How we act?
Its obvious to most folks.

Unless we learn to fake it (that is if we are able to), but should there really be a reason to do so?
I used to hear that I was strange, weird, different etc all the time. Nowadays people are surprised when I tell them I have AS, because I seem to be like everybody else. 33 years in the shame society of Sweden, constantly reminded how wrong it is not to be normal, has made me work out strategies of how to fit in. But am I happy? Only when I´m alone by myself or with my siblings and can be who I truly am.

Don´t know if I´ve used the quote function right, this is my first time. We´ll see in a sec.



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09 Nov 2011, 10:09 am

Some Aspies have some really bad social skills, so it's pretty obvious... perhaps just a few people will think "he's autistic", but our difficulties still obvious, so... no need of telepathic powers.

Look @ PM TheFerretHadToGo.



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09 Nov 2011, 10:39 am

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Some Aspies have some really bad social skills, so it's pretty obvious... perhaps just a few people will think "he's autistic", but our difficulties still obvious, so... no need of telepathic powers.

Look @ PM TheFerretHadToGo.
Given how civil most of us are I wouldn't put it down to bad social skills. :/ You see I have seen enough NTs with bad social skills to know that said lack of social skills is often a personality trait and judged with bias and furthermore characterized as objective when only subjective.



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09 Nov 2011, 10:48 am

Well social skills is defined by the majority, since it is based on interactions. If they are bad it becomes good. The issue is where you want to fit in.



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09 Nov 2011, 10:55 am

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Given how civil most of us are I wouldn't put it down to bad social skills. :/ You see I have seen enough NTs with bad social skills to know that said lack of social skills is often a personality trait and judged with bias and furthermore characterized as objective when only subjective.


Hmm ? That's why I say "some".

I'm civilised too, but when I speak to someone, it's obvious that I've problems with that, and even if I know what I've to say, I can't, so the others may find me "uncivilized". Anyway, as I said, the spectrum is not really known so few peoples can say we're autistic, but the troubles can be evident. And it's a spectrum, so even if "most of us" can train their social skills, be civilisated or whatever you want, some can't... and sometime it's obvious ; in this case, NTs don't need to be magician to see.



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09 Nov 2011, 11:04 am

TheFerretHadToGo wrote:
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Gedrene wrote:
JohnyJohn wrote:
How can they know that you are different?Telepathic powers?
How we act?
Its obvious to most folks.

Unless we learn to fake it (that is if we are able to), but should there really be a reason to do so?
I used to hear that I was strange, weird, different etc all the time. Nowadays people are surprised when I tell them I have AS, because I seem to be like everybody else. 33 years in the shame society of Sweden, constantly reminded how wrong it is not to be normal, has made me work out strategies of how to fit in. But am I happy? Only when I´m alone by myself or with my siblings and can be who I truly am.

Don´t know if I´ve used the quote function right, this is my first time. We´ll see in a sec.


This is me too. It takes a lot out of me to fake, especially with one on one dating. Then it takes time to recover, the people that accept me for me are hard to find.



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09 Nov 2011, 11:09 am

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F**k NTs ;)



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09 Nov 2011, 11:11 am

They see us as unsociable, boring, and rather odd.

I've had many years to (hopefully) improve.
I still feel like a fish out of water in a crowd though.



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09 Nov 2011, 12:04 pm

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Given how civil most of us are I wouldn't put it down to bad social skills. :/ You see I have seen enough NTs with bad social skills to know that said lack of social skills is often a personality trait and judged with bias and furthermore characterized as objective when only subjective.


Hmm ? That's why I say "some".

We could say the same thing about some NTs however. In fact we can say it about alot of them. THey just schmooze past eachother.

sMeow wrote:
And it's a spectrum, so even if "most of us" can train their social skills, be civilisated or whatever you want, some can't... and sometime it's obvious ; in this case, NTs don't need to be magician to see.
I don't have to be a facsimile of the human standard to have god social skills. GIven what some of them call good social skills it's obvious that the idea of what people call good social skills is 'NT'centric.



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09 Nov 2011, 7:15 pm

Some NTs don't like us because they see in us what they can never be and it makes them jealous. In order to feel adequate about themselves they have to do things that make them feel superior over us such as being an a****** to us and trying to make us feel inferior to them.



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10 Nov 2011, 9:14 am

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13 Nov 2011, 2:52 am

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NTs see us as ret*ds.


The term "aspie" sounds ret*d even though people with AS aren't.


Well look at it this way, it is one way of certian NTs to discriminate the Autism Spectrum of Disorders mainly, and apparently saying they hate Autism Supremacy in terms of it, it is that bad.



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13 Nov 2011, 9:10 am

Yes. Yes we do. We see you all as non functioning blabbering idiots. Please. :roll:

You're just paranoid based on high school hate and your own internalized hatred. The fact is you're probably reading too much into it.



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13 Nov 2011, 9:35 am

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Yes. Yes we do. We see you all as non functioning blabbering idiots. Please. :roll:

You're just paranoid based on high school hate and your own internalized hatred. The fact is you're probably reading too much into it.


Yes being treated like crap during public school does tend to contribute to later paranoia, at least that is my theory having experianced it....but it would seem there is some truth to it if people were not such a**holes to begin with maybe those of us who don't fit into what's normal would not feel that way about people in general.

Though I will say one thing I don't feel I am a hateful person, so I don't have much internalized hate.......a lot of internalized pain and such but not much hate.

And one more question, why are you on an autism/aspergers website if you're neurotypical?......don't you have something better to do then attempt to make people feel bad over the internet I mean come on now.



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13 Nov 2011, 9:42 am

No I really don't have anything better to do then tell a kid he's being overly paranoid. Sorry if I think he needs to stop stressing out. He's in high school, people are dicks then. I had a "good friend" out me after I told him in confidence I liked men. It sucked but I got over it. But I couldn't help but think, oh look, they all just see some fa***t. When in fact most people could tell I was gay and was just waiting for me to get over my own internalized hatred.