Poet_Morpheus wrote:
cornflake and ahogday:
you claim that she is filming, well I seen movement of the camera while she is not even near the camera, 7:48-&:50. And the camera is fading so you can't tell if she is turning the camera off or what.
aghogday:
My opinion is the beginning of life is at the beginning of life
-----------
As in, sperm, fetus, first breath, that kind of thing.
verrmontsavant:
It is an abortion question. The question is basically where is your stoping point for murder or however you want to see abortion, letal injection, or the thing they do to coma patients to kill them.
Sweetleaf:
Well the government authorities should be happy to know that people like me don't care what they think of my conversations anymore........if they don't like it, well they have the technology to track me down and come talk to me about it right?
-----
yea and they have better things to do than watch a bunch of kids-adults or whatever ages are on this site.
Gedene:
Your answer is a tautology! Thankyou, you have managed to provide no answer!
--------
don't worry about it, hog and corn are both failed trolls.
Corn as soon as hog provides an answer to the abortion question with a legit response and stops trying to avoid it you can lock the thread.
Didn't think you would really be interested in the details of when I think the beginning of life is, but here it is.
There are humans, they have ancestors, their ancestors have ancestors, there is a small rodent like mammal that existed along with the dinosaurs about 75 million years ago that is both the ancestor of all human beings and the ancestors of the mice that live today.
That rodent like creature had ancestors as well that connect back to the physical properties that came together to create the first sign of animate life on earth. However without those physical properties life could not have started so the origin of life goes beyond those physical properties to the beginning of all that is, which no one has a definitive handle on.
That's why I stated the beginning of life is the beginning of life; I doubt my opinion is the mainstream one, but it is my opinion.
For humans as individuals if any of the links to their existence had been broken from the time the sperm fertilized the egg that led to the knowledge of their existence or before that point in time to all of the other required continuum of elements, events, and actions required for their existence starting with the orgin of life, it would mean their non-existence.
Therefore the entire continuum is equally important to their existence and life and if at any point that continuum was broken it would mean non-existence and the abscence of life for that individual.
And beyond that everything we see in life has the same origin, so all of life is part of that same origin of life, along with everything else we call reality.
Abortion is part of the current reality of life. Considering that, and in respect for all life that in my understanding I am connected to from what I consider the origin of life, as provided above, I would hope the method used would be the one that caused the least amount of discomfort for that part of life that is part of the same continuum of life that I am part of.
The current legal restrictions on abortion take this into consideration. And the methods used determined by medical scientists to terminate a pregnancy take this into consideration as well. I don't consider myself to have a better answer than the ones those scientists have provided to terminate the pregnancy.
The death penalty is a reality as well as a coma for human beings; the legal system and medical field determine the appropriate restrictions and methods used, I do not consider myself to have better alternatives for the current methods used, since I am not a medical authority on what are the most humane ways to deal with these realities of life.
Regarding the Video on You Tube, perhaps Wiki can explain it better than I can:
The links in the Wiki article go directly to the same you tube video "In my Language" that you watched.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amanda_BaggsQuote:
Amanda Baggs (born 1980 in California) is an autism rights activist. In January 2007 she published a video on YouTube entitled In My Language[1] describing her experiences as an autistic person, which became the subject of several articles on CNN.[2][3][4] She also guest-blogged about her video on Anderson Cooper's blog[5] and answered questions from the audience via email.[6]
About her video, Amanda Baggs writes:[5]
“ My viewpoint in the video is that of an autistic person. But the message is far broader than autistic people. It is about what kinds of communication and language and people we consider real and which ones we do not. It applies to people with severe cognitive or physical disabilities, autistic people, signing deaf people, the kid in school who finds she is not taken seriously as a student because she does not know a lot of English, and even the cat who gets treated like a living stuffed animal and not a creature with her own thoughts to communicate. It applies to anybody who gets written off because their communication is too unusual. ”
On CNN, Sanjay Gupta stated:[3]
“ It really started me wondering about autism. Amanda is obviously a smart woman who is fully aware of her diagnosis of low-functioning autism, and quite frankly mocks it. She told me that because she doesn't communicate with conventional spoken word, she is written off, discarded and thought of as mentally ret*d. Nothing could be further from the truth. As I sat with her in her apartment, I couldn't help but wonder how many more people like Amanda are out there, hidden, but reachable, if we just tried harder.
13 Nov 2011, 3:09 am
