Neurodiversity is not a 'nice word for autism supremacy'!

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Erm, children don't get a choice in whether they get it or not. It doesn't matter whether you claim it won't be pushed on anyone or not, when it most likely will be, because parents get the final say and not the child. It doesn't, ultimately, matter what the intentions are when something is being developed - human beings by their nature will use it to control others, the question being by how much.

Well one would hope so.

Children don't get choices when it comes to many things because they're children. They aren't capable of making many decisions for themselves. And nobody wants to be impaired. Look around you, where individuals are brutally controlling other individuals already, which is easier to do when one lacks resources and is dependent on others, including dependence coming from lack of ability. You can't discredit something so progressive as cure, by mentioning some vague extraordinary unrealistic set of circumstances in which it could be malicious. Cure is wanted so that there can be real opportunity and real options, for those who don't have it now. Who would be against that? But you make any "curebie" out to be the heavy.

Well that is where it gets tricky, not all parents or caretakers of children have the best interest of the child in mind. Also how do you imagine they will cure autism, by rearranging autistic peoples brains trying to get it right? because that is literally what it would consist of u'd either have to try and weed out Autism via eugenics......or screw around with brains of autistic people trying to make them work like a neurotypical brain. Who wants the cure?

I think in the future, there may even be ways to reverse problems caused by environmental factors also. There already is evidence surfacing regarding biological differences associated with differences in severity of autism. There's still a lot to be researched, but they're getting closer. And the technology to gain that information and make it therapeutic, only will increase further. I've read a lot of stuff on the brain's workings, and the detail with which it's understood now by scientists, seems to be getting very sharp.

I think it would involve some kind of "rearrangement". But as far as I know, it may involve remedies that increase connectivity within the brain where it could be lacking. Such as reversing the difficulties in interactions between neurons, and the difficulties in long distance communication between distant areas of the brain. It may include forms of gene therapy, which are getting very sophisticated. This would have to be intricately planned and understood before it's attempted, of course. And the goal isn't really to make a brain work like a "neurotypical" one. It's just to increase functioning needed for basic skills and forms of learning.

Speak for yourself. I believe 100% that we are better than everyone else.

Don't make a spectacle of yourself with such a nonsense remark. But being militant pro-cure is a positive thing.

Inconsiderance in extreme individualism comes from rebellion. Our friends who suffer this are this way do so largely because they have largely not known their culture. Personally, I met a savant a while back and at our second meeting I became the person with whom he cultured with (spoke with) the most in his entire life. We came together and spoke at length on various scientific topics and continued hanging out for for a few weeks until I eventually disturbed his social equilibrium. The difference between us (my friend and I) is age and wisdom, I have decided to live outside my shallow social world and build something better, we need to learn from everyone, especially ourselves (sometimes it means teaching). I'm at a point where I want to have children and I want to pass on culture to them and I understand my children are going to need more than just me for a role model in their lives and I don't want their lives dominated by neurotypical thought alone. I want my children to feel comfortable being who they are and don't want them to feel like outcasts growing up. As I see it, all we struggle through today is what we must fix for our children. We don't need to fix our children. Though giving them gifts of talent will certainly be beneficial to them. Have you ever considered that talents like our can be taught? I assure you they can be learned, so they can indeed be taught which leads me think that perhaps culture will yield more talent than gene therapy. I'm also toying with considerations of "bad behavior" and eccentric dietary needs beyond those currently addressed.

My point here is that we shouldn't count out our culture because something seems inconsiderate, and we need to build culture that considerate. If culture is considerate, there won't be as much need for us scale back our eccentricities.

Can you name some things you feel are inconsiderate?

Still, I wouldn't want anyone fixing my kids with gene therapy. Let them (kids) decide what they want when they are able to think for themselves and think outside of the information that is handed to them. Obviously giving them only info from Autism Speaks and other genocidal organizations won't help. The really do need to be able to think for themselves and be kept from developing the standard media driven opinions or opinions simply of rebellion to the media driven opinions. Either would be just as bad.

I feel that epigenetics are partly responsible for storing environmental factors and passing them from generation to generation, or even developing in life. I read a license plate today that stated "Those who can make you believe in absurdity can also make you commit horrible atrocities" If this is correct, it is likely through epigenetics that people are programed by society to do what goes against their nature by the people who are passionate about changing the minds of people with angry attacks, responses of disbelief, black and white arguments, and stubborn personality. Our society should definitely be free of this.

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I'm not sure why anyone would be arguing that I am speaking Hitlerish... I'm talking preservation here... Am I missing something?

I disagree dalurker, your opinions are too extreme... I think you're angry at ignorance. Perhaps they've made you feel bad with the expectations they've formed in society. I've been there, I know, it's tough, but your life doesn't stop being a war story until you say "who would I be without the negative self image that's been cast upon me," and start trying to live it.

Learning requires a neurological system capable of learning the information and concepts that make up skills. The ability and speed with which one's brain can do that varies tremendously. It's just a fact, sadly. Some have to try much harder and longer than others. Knowledge/skills aren't really intangible.

I meant they were inconsiderate of the difficulties of others. Inconsiderate that others don't have their talents and functioning.

this is all fairly vague. I'll have to see it when the time comes. and when the time comes i hope to be dead not to see it.