Petition about Colorado shooting and autism

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I read in an article that he was diagnosed with schizophrenia and this was information by the court. Wth? There's an excuse for everyone these days.

I don't think the public actually knows his diagnosis. In fact, I don't know if he just sent it to the college psychiatrist means he actually saw one. This could also be misinformation. Obama publically attributed it to mental illness. I'm sure anyone who committs this is sick in the head, but not everyone is unstable. I imagine he was sociopathic, but I dont want to label like that.

As clearly spelled out in the DSM-IV, 666.66 Mass Murder.

This subject is often invisable until after a long planning session, gathering weapons, explosives, at great expense and often through illegal acts, commits a single organized act of mass murder, for no reason that makes sense to anyone else.

There is no defining feature, some are very intelligent, some are not. They do not have a prior history of mental illness, criminal behavior, and a prediction of who the next one might be covers half the population.

Type cases may only happen once a decade.

Compared, being struck by lightening, winning the lottery, are common everyday events, they happen to someone else, but they happen.

The odds that your normal seeming quite neighbor is about to become a mass murder, are several hundred trillion to one.

Mass Murder Speaks, has been formed to raise money to study this tragic to others condition. It can strike any family, often with lesser symptoms, lower body count, or perhaps just missing neighbors.

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Action will help, just as when forth graders did the Duck and Cover drills to prepare for Atomic Attack, where they were taught the proper fear response, and Islamic Prayer position. Allah protected them!

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I read the statement Mr. Scarborough made:
("As soon as I hear about this shooting, I knew who it was. I knew it was a young, white male, probably from an affluent neighborhood, disconnected from society -- it happens time and time again. Most of it has to do with mental health; you have these people that are somewhere, I believe, on the autism scale...I don't know if that's the case here, but it happens more often than not. People that can walk around in society, they can function on college campuses -- they can even excel on college campuses -- but are socially disconnected. I have a son who has Asperger’s who is loved by everyone in his family and who is wonderful, but it is for those that may not have a loving family and a support group and may be a bit further along on the autism spectrum, an extraordinarily frustrating, terrible challenge day in and day out. and so, I do think, again, I don’t know the specifics about this young man, but we see too many shooters in these type of tragedies bearing the same characteristics mentally.”)

He did not say that people with autism are more of a danger to society. I do not think he should be forced to apologize for his statement. I can agree with it. All kinds of people commit crimes. I don't understand the mind of a pedophile. I don't understand how a mom can kill her own children. Some motivations don't make sense to me. But having a pervasive obsession with a book or a movie? Becoming disconnected and dreamlike and hateful of all the fake people in the surreality around you? Yeah. That's a motivation that I can comprehend pretty easily. The shooter COULD be on the spectrum, so I don't think there is any need to throw a fit about the fact that some guy mentioned the possibility.

This part was quite inappropriate and even a bit racist IMO. There are plenty of non-whites who aren't on the spectrum that commit rampage killings. I think there's definitely an issue regarding mental health, but I believe it has more to do with the recession and the lack of access to medications the perpetrators need. There is also another trend: The first rampage shootings were perpetrated by older males, and a brief period in which females began committing such crimes. Now it's younger males that seem to comprise the majority of these types of crimes. This may be a consequence of the "tough boys don't cry" view in combination with untreated or improperly treated psychological issues. There are several other commonalities (I've studied this phenomenon for roughly 8 years).

Well, I haven't studied profiling, so I don't know any actual statistics to know what group of people is more likely to do what. But if characteristics of a certain crime fit the profile for a young white male and another crime fits the profile of a older black woman, I don't take that as being racist. Saying that something happens statistically or that a certain age/race fits a profile isn't saying that some other group DOESN'T commit "rampage killings".

Rampage killer is a pretty broad term. There are lots of different types of mass murders and certain types correspond to certain backgrounds, races, genders, mental health dx, economic status, etc.

Could a suicide bomber be a white, christian, american woman? Sure. But if I hear "suicide bomber" on the news, that would not be my first guess.

What's racist is Mr. Scarborough saying he "knew" it was a white male.

The term "rampage killer is used in many texts to describe school shootings, and similar types of crimes in public areas or the workplace. It's far better than calling it "going postal" or (as the Germans refer to it as) "Amoklauf." We all know Amok is a "culture-bound illness" (of the Malay people) caused by the Hantu Belian, an evil tiger spirit that enters people. Because of this belief, it would be less fitting to say "Amoklauf" (run amok). I'm sure we all know there isn't a malevolent tiger spirit making people commit such crimes. Hence the reason for the adoption of terms like "rampage killer" or "spree killer."

I'm sure it has been said a thousand times, but I can't help continually thinking when considering Joe Scarborough's comments that the things people with Asperger syndrome and HFA need more than anything else in order to have a better life are understanding and acceptance.

Suggesting that "more often than not" mass shooters are on the autism "scale" to a massive audience in a pseudo-news "news commentary" format that presents it as fact clearly doesn't foster understanding and acceptance.

Regardless of how motivated Joe Scarborough thinks he is to further the interests of his son with Asperger syndrome and the rest of those on the autism spectrum, I must say again that I agree with the concerns that he has caused harm by making the comments that he made. It seems like a simple thing to set the record straight if his ego isn't his first and all-consuming priority.

Has anyone tried to bring this issue to the attention to the writers of the Daily Show? They seem to like to poke fun at "Morning Joe" and they seem to always be ready to point out erroneous things presented in the "news."

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