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21 Mar 2013, 5:53 pm

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I find this very peculiar. Especially because many adults with other mental diseases in similar situations will not face these charges.


I find these charges to be total crap, not so much because the kid is 7 (though that is a huge factor), but rather because it wasn't the kid's fault. The teacher was given clear instructions to not touch the kid if the kid was upset, the teacher failed to follow those instructions and then found out whey those instructions existed to begin with. As such, this is an administration failure to do their job and the whole incident should be taken as a "school related incident" at most, it's not the kid's fault that he has a bad reaction to being touched when upset, in fact I've heard of a lot of autism cases where that was a factor.


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21 Mar 2013, 10:58 pm

This is why if I was to be arrested, I'd rather be kettled by the anti-emeute than grabbed from behind... I'd resist that.



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22 Mar 2013, 4:10 am

maybe if he takes one of those sally struthers corespondence coarses he will have graduated the 9th grade by the time he gets out.also teddy bears or tickle me elmo's would be great for hiding contra band.he could make a lot of money by holding and hiding drugs for the major heroin dealers in the joint


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22 Mar 2013, 2:25 pm

That is a bit ridiculous.


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22 Mar 2013, 4:27 pm

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That is ABSOLUTELY WRONG! If the boy truly is with autism, and he punched for personal space invasion, it is a reflex and not an act of violence. Although I have always tried to control it, I cannot help it if someone comes up and taps me on the shoulder from behind... They're going to get my elbow in the ribs without my control. If someone were to try to grab or restrain me, I would stop them physically, and that's not something I can control. THEY can control if though... All it takes is to announce and explain first!! !! Then I'm OK with it. People just don't understand. I felt bad when I shoved a fireman who tried to escort me to sit on a bench to look at a minor injury I had from a fall from a roof, and that was before I knew about my place on the spectrum. I apologized profusely, but I also knew I could not have stopped myself in time from shoving him. It happened too fast.

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Yes. this is absurd that a child of 7 years can be charged with a crime especially considering the circumstances. I don't get why people think they can touch someone without letting that person know they are probably going to be touched. It's like they don't care about personal space.



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22 Mar 2013, 7:18 pm

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I would like to know how the teacher is going to be disciplined! You don't pick a child up by the arm, you could dislocate the shoulder.

It seems autistic children are not really considered children, doesn't it?


From things I've read over the years I would say that often autistic children are not often considered human.



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22 Mar 2013, 7:46 pm

Verdandi wrote:
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I would like to know how the teacher is going to be disciplined! You don't pick a child up by the arm, you could dislocate the shoulder.

It seems autistic children are not really considered children, doesn't it?


From things I've read over the years I would say that often autistic children are not often considered human.


I've heard people say that as well, imo it only gives people easier means of abuse. I'm pretty sure everyone knows that step one to abuse is dehumanization of the target, in the abuser's mind if the target isn't percieved as human, it means they're not worthy to be treated as a human being and it makes it justifiable to them in some way.


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23 Mar 2013, 11:06 pm

It's wrong to do that to any 7 year old. I think the world has it in for us.


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23 Mar 2013, 11:08 pm

Verdandi wrote:
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I would like to know how the teacher is going to be disciplined! You don't pick a child up by the arm, you could dislocate the shoulder.

It seems autistic children are not really considered children, doesn't it?


From things I've read over the years I would say that often autistic children are not often considered human.


That's what I gather and the world has to drop that sort of thinking. We are not zombies, we are people.


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23 Mar 2013, 11:39 pm

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It's wrong to do that to any 7 year old. I think the world has it in for us.


I know it does, society and the system are using every little thing they can to say that people on the spectrum are dangerous and should be put away. Before long it'll be someone trying to pass laws to take our rights and freedoms away.


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26 Mar 2013, 12:45 am

What did he do, break her jaw? Here in the UK one has to be 10 or older to be charged.



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26 Mar 2013, 4:25 am

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What did he do, break her jaw? Here in the UK one has to be 10 or older to be charged.


News reports said he hit her nose, but no-one has said anything about anything being broken, so I guess she's fine.

Pretty sad, teacher fails to follow instructions of a behavioral plan for the kid, gets maybe a bloody nose because of it, 7 year old kid might have his life ruined by people on a witch hunt.

This is the world we now live in, where teachers can ignore instructions and then charge the kids their watching with crimes. All in a days work for them now.

If I had been a parent with a kid in that school, I'd have hit the roof in hearing about this case and moved my kids to a different school.


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26 Mar 2013, 4:57 am

It's insane that a 7year old boy could be put through an adult system and receive an adult judgement. I have to agree with earlier comments that the school is just looking for a way to legally rid themselves of a child they can't be bothered to deal with. It is very sad.


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26 Mar 2013, 7:19 am

Kookygirl wrote:
It's insane that a 7year old boy could be put through an adult system and receive an adult judgement. I have to agree with earlier comments that the school is just looking for a way to legally rid themselves of a child they can't be bothered to deal with. It is very sad.
they cant charge him as an adult because he is not 17.when you hear about juviniles being charged as adults,those are 13 year olds or older who have killed people.the worst thing that can happen to this kid is he could be sent to a behavior modification program


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26 Mar 2013, 7:57 am

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It's insane that a 7year old boy could be put through an adult system and receive an adult judgement. I have to agree with earlier comments that the school is just looking for a way to legally rid themselves of a child they can't be bothered to deal with. It is very sad.
they cant charge him as an adult because he is not 17.when you hear about juviniles being charged as adults,those are 13 year olds or older who have killed people.the worst thing that can happen to this kid is he could be sent to a behavior modification program


But aren't battery charges adult an adult offence?


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26 Mar 2013, 8:41 am

Kookygirl wrote:
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Kookygirl wrote:
It's insane that a 7year old boy could be put through an adult system and receive an adult judgement. I have to agree with earlier comments that the school is just looking for a way to legally rid themselves of a child they can't be bothered to deal with. It is very sad.
they cant charge him as an adult because he is not 17.when you hear about juviniles being charged as adults,those are 13 year olds or older who have killed people.the worst thing that can happen to this kid is he could be sent to a behavior modification program


But aren't battery charges adult an adult offence?
any crime commited under the age of 17 is a juvinile offense.in the late seventies there was a backlash against juvinile crime and some crimes could be considered an adult offense.

the courts got sick and tired of teens shooting,raping and robbing people with weapons and they passed those anti juvinile crime laws so that very very violent offenses could lead to adult sentences.even with murder you still have to be at least 13 to be tried as an adult.

no, simple assault without a weapon is a misdemeanor.he wouldnt even likely go to juvinile detention


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