"The Good Doctor" Series Premiere, Sept. 25

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24 Oct 2017, 12:50 am

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This weeks episode
I like that they have him thinking in pictures.

I found the part where he is so obsessed with fixing the sink he could not sleep, he just had to get it done relatable.

After the landlord told him to only bother him between 9AM to 5PM and he bothered him anyway in the middle of the night not so relatable because the instructions were quite direct and literal.

He was staring at an advertisement of a hot women and missed his bus stop. That is something to could happen to any guy. I found the flashback to the backstory where as a teen a girl said to him I will show you mine if you show me yours and after initial reluctence he started to pull down to his pants and a whole bunch of people jumped out from behind the bushes and started laughing at him painfully all to realistic.

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24 Oct 2017, 12:57 am

Good Doctor star searches for realism in trail blazing role

How The Good Doctor became the year's biggest new TV hit

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Last week, after just three episodes, The Good Doctor became the most-watched show on US television, surpassing The Big Bang Theory, which has held that title for quite some time despite running on pseudo-comic fumes

But before The Good Doctor and last year’s network breakout This is Us, a non-linear tearjerker about a family with three children who share a birthday, it had been a while since a debut series on either CBS, ABC, NBC or Fox became a ratings powerhouse. Network television was mostly underwhelming or, like The Big Bang Theory, stagnant and formulaic, and so viewers flocked instead to cable (HBO, AMC, FX) or streaming series

In that sense, network dramas are the new underdogs, at least in relation to the Game of Thrones and Walking Deads of the world. But perhaps they won’t be any longer, since both The Good Doctor and This is Us provide the guilty pleasures many people look for in their TV diets: earnest storytelling, very attractive actors doing very noble things, and characters who tug at our heartstrings. Both shows, too, have diverse casts and optimistic outlooks, debuting as the collective national mood called for encouraging, beat-the-odds entertainment in the vein of La La Land, Hidden Figures and Wonder Woman. The recent popular network dramas of the pre-Trump era – Empire, Madam Secretary, How to Get Away with Murder, Chicago Med and The Good Wife – were somewhat less uplifting in spirit and tone.

As one might expect, what’s made The Good Doctor a hit has made it divisive among critics: despite its ratings, it has a meager 43% approval rating on Rotten Tomatoes. Maureen Ryan, writing in Variety, called it both “preposterously tragic” and “a third-rate Grey’s Anatomy ripoff”. That discrepancy between the show’s critical reception and its popularity among audiences is one of the most extreme in the website’s history,

Ultimately, critics may be of little significance to The Good Doctor: it’s now ABC’s most-watched Monday drama in 21 years.

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25 Oct 2017, 11:10 am

TheGuardian.com wrote:

...after just three episodes, The Good Doctor became the most-watched show on US television, surpassing The Big Bang Theory, which has held that title for quite some time despite running on pseudo-comic fumes....

There's even talk of an Emmy nod for its star Freddie Highmore, of Bates Motel fame....

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radi ... t-new-show

The episodes just keep getting better and better.

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28 Oct 2017, 12:17 am

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First of all, the board openly discusses using the man's Autism as sole grounds for not hiring him. This is completely against the law in the US, as Autism is considered a disability, and reasonable accommodation must be made. What really floored me was when they were discussing this RIGHT IN FRONT OF HIM. I mean, do they WANT to get sued?!?

THANK YOU! That drove me up the walls during the first episode, and pretty much ruined it for me. All I could think of was "well Shaun has a FANTASTIC ADA violation case going now that these idiots have admitted to this during a [presumably on-the-record] board meeting." I wish it had had more backroom stuff, with people arguing these things outside the formal meeting over the topic and trying to dance around it when they were on the record. It not only would have been more realistic, but more dramatic & tense since the President couldn't have just pulled out the "inspiration porn" trump card.

That said, I've actually enjoyed the rest of the show so far. It's not really *good*, but it's fun popcorn television that has an important message. I mean, when was the last time we had a TV show that centered on the difficulties of being an autistic adult in the workplace? That's awesome!

I think my favorite scenes so far have been from the fourth episode, when Shaun has the meltdown and the conversation they have afterwards about him maybe needing extra support at home. Highmore's acting was fantastic during those scenes, and Shaun's kneejerk refusal to even consider the idea of support services was the first time I really connected with his character. I know that EXACT feeling, that sense that being autistic is one thing but getting accommodations is entirely different. Almost as if it's an insult, or makes the disability aspect more real somehow.

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28 Oct 2017, 6:28 am

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...All I could think of was "well Shaun has a FANTASTIC ADA violation case going now that these idiots have admitted to this during a [presumably on-the-record] board meeting...."

The U.S. Americans with Disabilities Act is complicated, but its fundamental workplace protection requires only that employees' disabilities must be "accommodated" by the employer to the degree necessary for employees to accomplish their jobs. If such accommodations are extraordinary or expose the employer to undue risk, the employer might have reason to reduce the employee's duties to limit the exposure, or terminate the employment altogether.

In other words, if an applicant for employment as a rural school-bus driver is blind (a condition that could result in damage and injury no matter how much the district upgraded the bus electronics and mechanics), the school district might have reason to decline employing the applicant.

I believe that the first episodes of the series explored the idea that the hospital had never accommodated an autistic employee before and was coming to terms with the ramifications of doing so. Thus, the hospital administrators acted as they probably should in situations with unknown results.

But, yes, it would have been more honest to have the characters discuss the ADA somewhat, and show that both sides of the debate had valid concerns.

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31 Oct 2017, 12:31 am

The next episode on November 13 will have Dr. Murphy treating an autistic patient with other objecting saying he is to close to the situation.

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01 Nov 2017, 9:37 pm

I saw the first episode the other night, it was good but I felt sad for him when the other Doctors were hostile towards him I hope he proves them wrong.

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11 Nov 2017, 8:00 am

I watched an episode of the Korean version and compared it to the American. Much much better, the main character is not a quirky positive walking stereotype, he is much more serious, introverted, has internal struggles, and doesn't act like such an ass. There isn't "autismphobia" because it hasn't been turned into identity politics in Korea, actually in Asia they know better than to make everything into identity politics like the west's "fat acceptance". So they don't force the agen...well there is none as it should be.

There is no agenda, his condition is merely part of the series premise. So we see him as an individual in a cast of different people, not a voice for blatant histrionic anti-psychiatry. Of course the Korean version has its flaws, it's a bit stiff, too much like an Asian or Australian drama, too acted out or not acted out naturally, but the it isn't a cringey joke.

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13 Nov 2017, 5:25 pm

I am looking forward to tonight's episode with the autistic patient

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13 Nov 2017, 7:49 pm

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ASPartOfMe wrote:

‘Good Doctor’ Scores Full-Season Order at ABC

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The show has proven to be one of the more popular new series this season already, with the series premiere nabbing a healthy 2.2 rating in adults 18-49 and 11.2 million viewers according to Nielsen Live+Same Day data. The second episode of the series aired Monday night, also netting a 2.2 and 10.9 million viewers

I wonder why autistic savants/socially ackward geniuses are consistently so popular on TV and the movies

Because script writers can ascribe any kind of super failures or super talents they believe would tantalize their audiences; in other words, it is the 21st century's version of a carnival. Apart from Darold Treffert, M.D., no one really understands savant syndrome. It can be whatever others wish it to be.

I don't think it is like a carnival. Yes, people are curious, but the Sean Murphy character is incredibly likeable. He can be confounding to the characters around him who aren't used to it, sure, but he also exhibits the traits people in real life can really value in someone with ASD. In communities where people are used to ASD, someone like him would be well accepted and liked. There is no denying he wants to do good even when his foot is in his mouth, and the graphic depictions of his thought process are enlightening to those who don't know what thinking in pictures might be like.

The main thing I miss given the character is played by a non-ASD actor is the eyes. People with his level of ASD often have what I think of as extraordinarily "bright" eyes. I don't know how to describe it. Maybe it is just an anomaly of the small sample I know in real life, but I love those eyes.

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14 Nov 2017, 12:53 am

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AspieUtah wrote:

After last week's premiere episode (S1 E1 Pilot - Burnt Food), I liked the character portrayals by Freddie Highmore (Dr. Shaun Murphy) and Richard Schiff (Dr. Aaron Glassman) ( http://abc.go.com/shows/the-good-doctor ) because I was most worried about their characters based on the poorly edited broadcast teasers. But, I considered the remaining cast to be underwhelming and overpopulated in every scene. I understand that conflict in the workplace is a necessary plot line, but did every character need to be so arrogant and hostile while appearing to be as young as their internship subordinates? Give me some physicians and surgeons with a little gray hair, thanks. Their attempts to dismiss Murphy might have meant something more than ego.

In last night's episode (S1 E2 Mount Rushmore), the hostilities remained, but at least there was some defensiveness coming from the Murphy and Glassman characters. We also learned more about Murphy's background and resulting personality. Well done.

I'm not actually asking this question as an argument, I'm really curious. Didn't you find Dr. Murphy's portrayal of an Aspie to be a bit exaggerated, a bit TOO autistic? I guess I just wish the character were more subtle, but I've only seen the first episode.

I agree with you. In reality, Shaun will have trouble getting his registration. I knew someone who had much less AS symptoms than Shaun and yet enough to make him stand out. The board didn’t want to register him.

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14 Nov 2017, 3:05 am

The Good Doctor' Features Coby Bird, Teen Actor on the Autism Spectrum

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Coby Bird has wanted to act since he was 6 years old. Now, at 15, he’s a guest star on “The Good Doctor,” ABC’s new hit show about a doctor on the autism spectrum. Like the show’s main character, Bird is also on the autism spectrum.

In the episode, titled “22 Steps,” Dr. Shaun Murphy (Freddie Highmore) must confront prejudice while caring for a patient on the spectrum, played by Bird. Bird appears to be the first person with autism spectrum disorder cast on the show.

Already a fan of “The Good Doctor,” Bird auditioned for the show after learning about the opportunity through his agent. When he learned he landed the role, he told The Mighty he was speechless. “This has to be a trick or a dream or something,” Bird remembers thinking. “I can’t believe this is actually happening.”

Shortly after finding out he was cast, Bird flew to Canada to start filming. He said the set was very much like an actual hospital, and he enjoyed exploring the set when he wasn’t filming.

Bird’s favorite part was doing his own stunts for the show and getting to meet the whole cast.

Bird said he enjoys acting and can memorize his lines within a day. He also never forgets lines or notes from the director. Acting has also helped him build his verbal and communication skills and has made crowds, loud noises and social interactions less taxing.

Bird credits the progress he’s made with his social skills, and as an actor, in part to The Miracle Project — a program that introduces kids on the autism spectrum to the arts, and has worked with shows like “The Good Doctor” and “Atypical” on previous casting endeavors.

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14 Nov 2017, 7:46 am

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The Good Doctor' Features Coby Bird, Teen Actor on the Autism Spectrum

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This is great news.

I wondered what Freddie Highmore would do in an episode where he was its producer.

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14 Nov 2017, 7:11 pm

I finished reading the horrible In A Different Key last week so seeing the parents of the autistic patient portrayed in a way other than perfect martyrs was a happy shock to me. They were bigoted and less effective with their son than Shaun was and the fact that the writers made that choice while we know A$ is "partnered" with them was really good IMO.

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15 Nov 2017, 1:53 am

Freddie Highmore name checked “Neurotribes”
http://www.hollywoodoutbreak.com/2017/11/14/how-the-good-doctor-has-changed-freddie-highmores-views-on-autism/

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17 Nov 2017, 1:27 am

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The Good Doctor' Features Coby Bird, Teen Actor on the Autism Spectrum

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He also plays an autistic teen too. I am watching it now. I have a feeling that Murphy's black female co worker thinks he has an adjustment disorder and she hasn't picked up yet he is autistic.

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