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16 Feb 2008, 9:08 pm

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I always thought about opening a restaraunt or store where the lights are dimmer, theirs only soothing noises in the backround, nice and open, every corner you turn, theres a room where you can go collect yourself...


It's a noble idea but that would take up a lot of space. Plus, what would you do about shoplifters? People chilling out wouldn't want a CCTV camera bearing down on them but by the same token you have to stop people nicking your stock somehow.



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17 Feb 2008, 12:30 am

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If buildings were not wheelchair accessable, if they said, No People of color not welcome, or they said no women need apply, people would speak out, boycott, and even sue.

But for some reason, it seems to be OK to advantage of people that are Autistic, because of their good nature, or inability to understand someone is taking advantage of them for purposes of profit, labor, or even sex. Yet, we do not sue these people. Why not?

Isn't the way to make these people not discriminate and hold them accountable to following the American Disabilities Act, to sue them?

I for one think that if started suing people for there mistreat of us, people would not mistreat us so much?

What do you think? How many companies can you think to sue because they discriminated against you?



Interesting you should start this post Idaho because it's been on my mind lately, particularly protecting our kid if and when the bullying comes up at school. If it gets so bad can we sue the district, claiming that he has the right to a free and approrpriate education without fear of emotional, psychological and physical harm? We haven't had to deal with that, but I'm wondering if some AS parents have had to resort to lawsuits. We want our kid to learn about life and hold his own, but we won't put up with other kids making it uncomfortable for him to learn.

Just thinking....\



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17 Feb 2008, 12:59 am

NewportBeachDude wrote:
IdahoAspie wrote:
If buildings were not wheelchair accessable, if they said, No People of color not welcome, or they said no women need apply, people would speak out, boycott, and even sue.

But for some reason, it seems to be OK to advantage of people that are Autistic, because of their good nature, or inability to understand someone is taking advantage of them for purposes of profit, labor, or even sex. Yet, we do not sue these people. Why not?

Isn't the way to make these people not discriminate and hold them accountable to following the American Disabilities Act, to sue them?

I for one think that if started suing people for there mistreat of us, people would not mistreat us so much?

What do you think? How many companies can you think to sue because they discriminated against you?



Interesting you should start this post Idaho because it's been on my mind lately, particularly protecting our kid if and when the bullying comes up at school. If it gets so bad can we sue the district, claiming that he has the right to a free and approrpriate education without fear of emotional, psychological and physical harm? We haven't had to deal with that, but I'm wondering if some AS parents have had to resort to lawsuits. We want our kid to learn about life and hold his own, but we won't put up with other kids making it uncomfortable for him to learn.

Just thinking....\


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17 Feb 2008, 4:27 am

NewportBeachDude wrote:
IdahoAspie wrote:
If buildings were not wheelchair accessable, if they said, No People of color not welcome, or they said no women need apply, people would speak out, boycott, and even sue.

But for some reason, it seems to be OK to advantage of people that are Autistic, because of their good nature, or inability to understand someone is taking advantage of them for purposes of profit, labor, or even sex. Yet, we do not sue these people. Why not?

Isn't the way to make these people not discriminate and hold them accountable to following the American Disabilities Act, to sue them?

I for one think that if started suing people for there mistreat of us, people would not mistreat us so much?

What do you think? How many companies can you think to sue because they discriminated against you?



Interesting you should start this post Idaho because it's been on my mind lately, particularly protecting our kid if and when the bullying comes up at school. If it gets so bad can we sue the district, claiming that he has the right to a free and approrpriate education without fear of emotional, psychological and physical harm? We haven't had to deal with that, but I'm wondering if some AS parents have had to resort to lawsuits. We want our kid to learn about life and hold his own, but we won't put up with other kids making it uncomfortable for him to learn.

Just thinking....\


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17 Feb 2008, 6:07 am

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We should all sue Autism Speaks. :twisted:


For what?


For the crappy videos that they show.


I was thinking maybe violation of the First Amendment in the US myself! Think about it!



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17 Feb 2008, 10:20 am

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They did some pretty bad things, like combining the positions of legal advisor to the president of the university and the person you are suppose to make legal complaints to regarding disabilities against the university into the same position.


That's horrible! How does that go undetected by the ADA? That's insane...


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17 Feb 2008, 11:44 am

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OK, so you think people that have tried asking 3, 4, 100 times for a basic easy accomodation from someone that is getting federal dollars to supply, should just pay $10000s of dollars because they don't want to sue?

Come'on, people have to eat, and if they are being treated unfairly, and not allowed the same servies they need to live a decent life, and nobody is helping them out, why shouldn't they sue?

I think we have a court system in order to avoid the physical, which would be the only other way I get someone to listen to me after asking 500 times.


It's not always that easy. The government does not simply hand out cash that easily. Even if they did, it would only cover the basic repair/updating of the equipment/thing that must be changed. It will not cover any money lost while the place needs to be shut down to make these repairs. It does not cover lost wages suffered by employees. It does not cover the loss of many things. I know this because my mother is the owner of a small business, a business that is housed in a small, old building that does not have much space as is. She tried to make accomodations for better and more accessible parking: this resulted in much less parking overall for the customers. Since no one wants to walk across a busy street to get in, they go to McDonalds ( a big business that has plenty of room and $$$ to make changes) or some other nearby place. Bathroom changes resulted in only one big stall instead of multiple little ones--- now no one can pee. Customers don't like this at all. And if there are multiple disabled patrons, they must also take a number in addition to the other people. This also resulted in another segment of people being left out--- elderly customers with weak bladders who can't wait very long in a line to pee ( I wonder if incontinence could be considered a disability?). Many of the regulars are old people. The building is only a certain size--- it can't be expanded due to there being businesses on either side of hers. How is she to make more and more changes ( all the while getting sued) to accomodate everyone? Money is not the only issue--- space is an issue as well for many small businesses. Lets not forget the workers, too ( maybe they can get jobs at Walmart). She might have to close down soon--- business is getting too difficult and rough. She'd make more money working for someone else ( like Walmart). Pretty soon, only Walmart and McDonalds will be left.
It's like that with anything, even dimming the lights. It might help an autistic patron, but it will hinder a visually-impaired patron. Who wins in the end? Only BIG businesses, not small ones. You can't please everyone all the time. Someone will always feel left out or be dissatisfied.



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17 Feb 2008, 11:53 am

if laws are obviously beign broken yes please do sue..

i have sued several cases...


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