Jenna McCarthy was on CNN last night.
She was supposed to be talking about that, but I felt she was intolerant of anyone who didn't believe what she did. Among other things she said that her child died when he developed autism.
Is it me, or does this woman come off as rude and disrespectful? I also wondered if she could secretly be convinced she was responsible for her child's autism.
Seriously, I wanted to yell at her.
Jenny McCarthy is to autism what KFC is to chicken.
Tangent: Ohhhh I don't agree with that analogy. I love KFC!
On topic: I'm hearing that a lot of parents wanted to yell at the b***h, Morning. Jenny McCarthy is being nominated for Idiot of the Month on my website Wiki.
Where is this website?
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I don't know what to think of her anymore. The first article I ever read from her was fine, I didn't have any major issues with it, I was happy to hear that a diet change had helped her child so much, and while her and I weren't on the same page overall, I thought she could be an effective advocate. But she isn't all that consistent, and I really don't remember her being on the vaccine bandwagon before. How can I trust her "instinct" when it keeps changing? It's not as if her speaking style implies a slow evolution of opinion; it's far too absolute for that.
I am very curious to learn more about her ex, and his position on it all. I never hear anything. But wasn't he rather quirky? Just the kind of artist that may be Aspie himself?
The thing I do there is something I learned in college.
One of my teachers once told me that if someone says anything, no matter how many facts they may have, you can pretty much take for granted that it is just their opinion.
Facts may not change, but interpretations of them do.
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I know some parents are highly emotional and defensive about their autistic child, I know one mother from my kids' school whose son has AS. She couldn't talk about him without crying, because his diagnosis was still new and she was trying to adjust to it, but she liked talking to an adult with AS to understand him better. She even asked me advice on how to deal with his behavior issues.

Being a parent myself, I told her how I would probably deal with it, but that I was no expert, I only know that many times when I was punished for "bad" behavior, I didn't even know what I was being punished for, because I didn't know it was bad, even if it actually was.
The only thing I could actually come out and say was, "Never assume you know what your child is thinking, let him/her tell you, and when he or she tells you, believe what your child is saying." You know, open communication lines, with a child who is precocious enough to do so, like he is. That tends to work for most people, anyway, who can communicate.
Oh, and the other thing is, show respect.
Again, I don't know Jenny McCarthy very well, except for her behavior on Larry King, it just really turned me off to wanting to hear what she had to say because she wasn't being very respectful of the opposing views.
She came across as someone who has something diagnosable, herself, and I'm not saying that to be derisive, just trying to put it into some sort of perspective.
Don't mistake me, this whole "cure autism now" crusade really rankles. I don't want to be cured, just respected.

i thought that she sounded like deep down she blamed herself for her child's autism.
I mean, she talks about taking her child for vaccines, then says the vaccines caused her child's autism.
I got the impression that she may have felt she was responsible.
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She's Jim Carrey (the comic)'s girlfriend/fiancee. She's doing a book tour to promote Louder than Words.
She believe that the therapies have "cured" her son in one breath, but in the next statement will say that if she lets her guard down, that Evan (her son) can revert back into his Autism.
She believes that his gastrointenstinal problems ARE NOT related to his autism.
And she believe that the vaccines caused his autism: why? Because a Mom knows.
She's dangerous because she has no idea that a little boy exists inside his head that she needs to learn how to communicate with. And worse, she is dangerous, because every time she speaks she inadvertently throws in a plug for Autism Speaks' eugenics program.
Interesting.
I'm not going to argue with that, but do you have sources or specific examples?
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Any time someone talks about "eradicating autism", I see it in no other way than their message to me being that they don't want people like me to exist, at all.
I've heard that kind of talk, and seen those conversations on Usenet discussion boards, websites, and other places. The commercials disturb me, because they echoed things my mother wrote in her journal, that I found after she passed away, that if she had the legal right to take me out of this world, she would have, because she brought me into it in the first place. Chilling words from one's own mother. What if Jenny's son didn't respond to the treatments? The point is, it worked for now, but what if it didn't?
The other thing is, how some people view "defective" people. They don't want to deal with people who are going to be a problem for them, they want to see them disappear.
It's the "Yuppie perfect world" mindset that bugs me so much, if something is ugly, or not useful, defective or different in a way they don't like, then they want to throw it away. That's the kind of school system my kids had to attend, full of parents who acted like Jenny McCarthy. I've been yelled at by parents like her at a special ed parents support meeting because I had said, in introductions, that not only was I the parent of two kids with significant needs, but that I had AS. To explain further, I said it is a type of autism, and I was unable to say more, because I was shouted down. So, I'm a bit gun shy of parents who think liek that.
But I wanted to withhold judgment on Jenny until I knew what her agenda truly was. Sometimes it takes me a while.

I'm sorry to see that you experienced that.
I'm more the type that when that happened to me in the past, I would shout them down, win lose, or draw.
And to DW, sorry if my posts came off the wrong way to you. I was a little upset by the way the lady acted before that, so anything she said for the last half might have been misinterpreted.
I don't mind pro-cure people at all, even though i don't agree with them. Everyone is bound to have different beliefs. I just think we need to be able to share our beliefs about everything without being shouted down (see above). I think everyone's beliefs, no matter whether or not we agree with them, have an equal right to be respected.
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And to DW, sorry if my posts came off the wrong way to you. I was a little upset by the way the lady acted before that, so anything she said for the last half might have been misinterpreted.
No need to apologize. You've cleared it up well, above.
Sometimes we simply need to challenge each other a bit to make sure we're all talking about the same thing.
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And to DW, sorry if my posts came off the wrong way to you. I was a little upset by the way the lady acted before that, so anything she said for the last half might have been misinterpreted.
No need to apologize. You've cleared it up well, above.
Sometimes we simply need to challenge each other a bit to make sure we're all talking about the same thing.
What did you think about the show?
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Ahem ... I didn't get to see it ... that's why I'm so eagerly reading the thread!
Although I have read articles from or about Jenny.
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This is something I found myself wondering as I watched the show: Has she said anything that indicates she feels responsible for her sons autism? or that she feels she is blamed?
I was just curious, because I got that impression from her a little.
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So they'll let Mccarthy b***h moan and complain about vaccines and autism, yet when one of our own has a chance to be interviewed and show his side of the story (I am referring to Alex's proposed interview), they pull the segment off the air? Somebody f*****g shoot the manager at CNN. This whole incident and this whole biased debate reeks of conspiracy.
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I'm more the type that when that happened to me in the past, I would shout them down, win lose, or draw.
And to DW, sorry if my posts came off the wrong way to you. I was a little upset by the way the lady acted before that, so anything she said for the last half might have been misinterpreted.
I don't mind pro-cure people at all, even though i don't agree with them. Everyone is bound to have different beliefs. I just think we need to be able to share our beliefs about everything without being shouted down (see above). I think everyone's beliefs, no matter whether or not we agree with them, have an equal right to be respected.
It's one of those things that if it happens unexpectedly, I don't know how to react. I just go blank. If I expect it, then I probably already have the right script in mind, and act that way. I have a myriad of personalities to put on and be, depending on the situation. That's how I operate in the real world. It's an act.
However on other occasions, you can be sure I did a lot of shouting when it came to trying to get my daughter accommodated. They weren't honest with me, for one thing. Not that it did much good to shout. The people in that district are quite stubborn in their ways, even when you point out something valid. The only time they take action is when they get threatened with legal action, but then they are quick to backslide to where they were before, because they are convinced they are right, and I'm just another stupid misguided parent in need of medicating. Which isn't true.
I haven't had much exposure to people with significant autistic traits, in real life. So, I don't always know what parents are dealing with when they have kids with autism to that degree. I tend to go around not really looking outside my own spaceship that is my consciousness, heh, for lack of a better term, I too often look out at the world through a porthole, so to speak. So often my opinions might be a bit limited.
Anyway, I'm disappointed that CNN did not give the potential interview with Alex any airtime. They are supposed to be unbiased. But unfortunately there's a lot of bias out there.
Alex is cute, but Jenny is a playboy centerfold. Which one do YOU think is going to get bigger viewer numbers?
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I was just curious, because I got that impression from her a little.
I think parents often blame themselves for things that have affected their children, at least a little, so given that she beleives her child's condition is vaccine related, it wouldn't surpise me if she does blame her self to some degree. Especially here in CA, where there has been enough discussion for enough years on whether or not to vaccinate that most parents do feel they are making a conscious choice to follow the protocol.
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And to DW, sorry if my posts came off the wrong way to you. I was a little upset by the way the lady acted before that, so anything she said for the last half might have been misinterpreted.
No need to apologize. You've cleared it up well, above.
Sometimes we simply need to challenge each other a bit to make sure we're all talking about the same thing.
What did you think about the show?
The show rocked. Jenny had them on their toes. And, to set the record straight on a few things, she did not use a lot of bad language. She said 'BS' one time, which is modest for her because she's much more blunt in person. She only said that when a doctor claimed themerisol had been removed from vaccines because it's not true and frankly, I'm sick and tired of hearing that lie. Every parent who's taken their kids to get the 5 required DTaP shots knows it. The shot is for Diptheria, Pertusis and Tetanus. The themerisol/mercury is still in it as a preservative for the multi-dose Tetanus. It is present in trace amounts in the single dose, but not as a preservative. It's also present in the flu shots, which babies get as well.
Also, what everyone on Larry King's panel agreed upon was that nobody supports banning vaccines. So, for those who are saying Jenny is anti-vaccine, you're dead wrong. She is not. They all agreed vaccines play an important role in life. However, the debate comes into play when you discuss how, when, where, why the kids should get the vaccines like a one-size, fits-all thing and whether or not the combination vaccines should be broken up and/or multiples should be given in one day.
A modified vaccine schedule doesn't mean the child goes without vaccines. All it means is that they are spaced out differently. My youngest kid is on a modified schedule, but still pretty much had all of his shots on time for school. So, nobody should be against it. As long as the kids get the shots, who cares whether they're given over a few extra months? Bundling shots is not for any health benefit. It is a convenience factor. That's the only reason for the combo shots because it's easier and quicker for the doctor.
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