AS boy voted out of classroom by classmates

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yet another example of democracy being a crappy form of administration.

Just cause a majority agrees on something people, doesn't make it right.
I'm not saying a dictatorship would be better though

Lashing out in emotional distress? From what I've heard it sounds like she thought it through and went about it quite rationally.

Oh, and perhaps you'd prefer Fascism?

Why in the hell are you defending the poor excuse for a human?

That's not even true.

Thinking something through does not exclude emotional distress and lashing out. Rational and strategic thinking does not exclude an emotional drive, thankfully.

Even a murderer can murder in many ways - by striking his victim is pure rage and by crucial planning for a prolonged period of time. For one, rational thinking does not exclude a most horrible outcome.

Also, rational thinking is a tool, not a moral viewpoint and neither a psychological viewpoint. It follows rules,. percentages and +/- and does not take the human psyche into consideration. Everything can be rationalised. If you do not believe - talk to a psychopath. That's the most extreme case that shows that everything can be made to serve everything.

And picking up that idea - as it is just as likely and we do not know - that this woman meant no harm to the boy herself, didn't mean to 'get back' at him - then she's a most stupid individual.

I have a hard time believing a person in Western society is in bliss about what bullying and power plays are. In that case the teacher must have a form of social impairment, by the inability to understand basic social interaction and communication.

I wonder what you want to get at. That this boy behaves himself? Yes, agreed. If there's a problem, it's a problem that ought to be identified and solved.

And that, you say, includes having a destroyed ego and emotional issues, because... ?

You do know there are a wide range of disciplinary measures? Because it seems like you think the only way to teach a child to stop misbehaving is by fear.

I on the other hand say that the far better teacher is respect.

OMG you support bullying?

I support boxing. Respect the bully, train and practice until you can take him. It builds character. Even the bully will have to respect you. If it worked for Father Flanagan in Boy's Town ( http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0029942/ ) , it can work nowadays.



Hitler was the duly elected Chancellor of Germany. You apparently support democracy, which is what put Hitler in power. I support a Constitutional Republic with inalienable rights that even the majority cannot take away.



Charles Manson carefully thought out what he did, is that somehow a mitigating circumstance?



I hear it is frequently effective in Red China against political dissidents.

Having been 'voted out' of a class myself, though not for misbehaving, I know the trauma and confusion it can cause. And I was a lot older then 5 when it happened. This poor child is already going to be confused enough by social situations and the many rules of school and the different things you have to learn at that age (you just think about how you found life at that age), to then have all those kids say they find you disgusting is just so awful beyond words. Just remember how things were at that age - being bullied, trying to make friends, not realising when you were doing things 'wrong' and desperately trying to fit in and have people like you, thinking maybe you were making headway with one or two... and to then have them turn around and vote you out - a concept you probably wouldn't even really 'get' at that point anyway - and say all those things without any provocation or reason would just be traumatic and awful beyond words.

Children with Aspergers need things to be explained to them, they need teaching and guidance and support and a huge amount of love to teach them the ins and outs of everyday life and interaction. Not condoned bullying and tramatising by the people who are meant to help you.

Agreed.

God damn that makes me so f*****g angry, I remember how it was for me at that age in kindergarten, there is a special place in hell for those kinds of teachers. Sorry for the language but if I was that parent I would have taken it out on the b***h teacher.

[quote="Yupa"]
He was a problem student. They had to do something and they'd probably already tried everything else. [/quote]

so it's okay to result to mainstream social BS: e.g. shaming and trying to getting him to fit the mold? LOL XD

EDIT: I saw this yesterday on 4chan's /b/.

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Being hit can have similar effects.
http://www.religioustolerance.org/spankin4.htm

If it weren't for "mainstream social BS" we'd have people walking around wearing umbrella hats and polka-dot ties crapping in public and touching other people without permission (quite probably in very wrong places), just to name a few of the milder things that would be going on.

What's wrong with umbrella hats and polka dot ties? They don't hurt anyone.

They hurt the eyes of everyone who isn't a masochist

How so?