I'm kind of offended by The Autistic Pride movements

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Honestly, it's a ignorant comment like this, is why I lose respect for many people including gays.

You have absolutley no idea what it's like to be autistic/ have Asperger's. One day gays and lesbians will have equal rights, but autistic people will most likely die off once prenatal testing for autism will be available.

I'm offended that you can make such judgements, people with autism get ostracized even more than gays and lesbians. We are the "freaks" and "geeks" of society. Plenty of people have been murdered and abused for their disability. One boy with Asperger's was attacked and beaten by 4 men who recieved 80 days of community service for this unprovoked.

So please take your head out of the sand, or GET OFF THIS FREAKIN WEBSITE! because this site is intended for people in the Autism and Asperger's community to unite and bring positive attitude, not for some egotistical idiot to make judgemental comments.

Thank you and good night

A prenatal test for autism isn't any worse than a test for any other condition. Not everyone is emotionally or financially able to care for an autistic person. Also, there will always be autistic people.

Also, I find it hilarious how someone with self-diagnosed Asperger's is telling people who were actually diagnosed about how they don't know what it's like to have Asperger's.

I am a gay Aspie. Being an Aspie is more frustrating day to day than being gay at least for me....because i lose and forget things constantly. Being gay is getting more and more easy all the time.....but I am celibate that may have something to do with it.

While Aspiegirl85 is self-diagnosed, Asp-Z - who is diagnosed - agreed with her. She was apparently aiming her comment at the OP, who is "unsure whether I have it or not," and thus pretty far from a diagnosis. And - speaking as a lesbian, and while I do not have an official diagnosis, I do have a therapist who agrees it is a distinct possibility and will get me a referral for said diagnosis - the OP was pretty ignorant, as demonstrated repeatedly by the four pages of responses.

While I do get what you're saying, I personally find it offensive that someone who probably does not have Asperger's in the first place (since self-diagnoses can be wrong) is telling me that I don't know what it's like to have it.



Same here. Being gay hasn't really affected my life in the same way Asperger's has; it just means that I'm going to end up with a woman (if I do end up with anybody at all).

I've heard and read some really viciously awful things that have been said about transgender people, and they have a pretty high murder rate, serious difficulty getting employment, difficulties getting respectful or effective medical care, and an extremely high attempted suicide rate (close to 50%). I wouldn't try to compare acceptance and tolerance of transgender people and autistic people and expect it to make any kind of sense (especially, "it's easier to accept transgender people than autistic people") when the lack of acceptance can be quite different in both circumstances. There are some surprising parallels as well... such as the way murderers are treated in both cases (tend to get a slap on the wrists, sometimes they go on to murder a "valued member" of society later).

I'm not saying who has it better than the other, I am suggesting neither has it all that good. And some people get to be both and deal with all of it at once.

I think pride leaves out facts and removes the dignity of certain kinds of self-representation due to the preservation of pride. I've seen it before. Also ASAN uses the selective-abortion issue to advance issues as a guilt politic and I don't think it's ethical especially toward tax-payers.

I thoguht she was telling "The," the OP.

And while self-diagnoses can be wrong, it seems to be the case that a lot of self-diagnoses are correct. I don't know, maybe I assume everyone else is as thorough as I am (since that thoroughness seems to be very common among self-diagnosed people).

If she was telling you that you have no idea what it's like to have it, she had no business doing that. I don't really think anyone does.

your post is an iresponsable farce.this forum was not created to be a contest on who' been screwed over most by society.autistic pride is mostly about building self esteem for young people with autism,so they can be more sucesful in society.it has nothing to do with your gay pride.i have nothing against the gay sexual orientation or lifestyle.homosexuality is not a medical condition and its agenda has no bussiness on a disability website,unless to address the lives of gays with disabilities.i have an old friend who is autistic and transgendered and i sapport him totaly(now her).she would agree disability websites are not referendoms on who's most oppressed.the only remote conecting issue that links disabilities,and a gay orientation and lifestyle is descrimination and there more to being disabled than just being descriminated against.so i think such comparisons are flawed and iresponsable

I have a very good self-esteem that has helped me accomplish and without focusing on the label. Pride however in politics is inappropriate and seeks to reinvent the label and with more emphasis on the label as the identity. This instead of rejecting the label and focusing much less on it. Again pride politics are used for abortion politics and misrepresent people with substantial disabilities toward lawmakers.

Connect the dots..

Nathan Young

Do they get denied benefits from government?
It's not obvoius. In Italy they are cutting cost for childrens' early intervention and increasing funding for mental hostpitals. It depend osn WHICH benefits.
Press and television don't talk about it. I know it because my son has therapy in a mental hospital and they also have mentally ill adults.
I add, we have one of the most advanced legislation in the world for mentally ill people inclusion. It was inspired by doctor Basaglia's thought. My country today is reduced this way and it's not a joke as it seems.

Has anyone ever been killed for being autistic?
Yes. Nazis exterminated mentally ill people and also autistics. You taught them how to exterminate people, before they exterminater jews.


Is being against Autism a major political issue?
It shoul be a political issue. You're a significant minority, 1% of population.