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04 Jan 2011, 12:54 pm

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why does one who wants to stop the infighting have to be a hippy.cant we fight the neurotypical world and there prejudices.cant we fight a mainstream disabled comunity that doesnt care about people with autism and mental retardation.im a member of a lot disability social networking sites and very few people will talk to you if have the A word or the R word in your proflie.hey i was no passivist when i saw people mocking people with downs on disabilty message board.hippies say arms are for hugging.i say arms are for beating up curebies and pride mites


I think your projected mentality is certainly dangerous and potentially terroristic. Perhaps your acting it out to make pride-mites look bad but honestly such behavior is not even pride-mite material. Thanks for the attempted help though at making pride-mites look really bad.

Such clear anti-N.Tism is anti-societal let alone anti-establishment.

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04 Jan 2011, 1:31 pm

i dont think my spelling was that bad.i also think it inapropriate in this day and age to compare my statements to terorism.nothing i said was any more atackitive than your curbie vs.pride-mite ramblings



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04 Jan 2011, 1:34 pm

Intellectual debate with a sense of humor given the past name calling and harshness of members within the autism community is not rambling. The intent is to get the craziness sifted through, understood and fully analysed. It is a sense of humor but threatening to beat people up shows a criminal mentality and given the anti-NTism shows a potential to lash out at the society around you especially if you feel others with disabilities and society might hate you thus you are persecuted so possible terror like behavior in response. Possible is not certain. This is logical and balanced.

Please prove me wrong by not conducting criminal activities and trying to think more positive about the world around you.

I welcome you to remove your statements from this forum and I will remove my response(s).

Your statements are embarrassing least to yourself but I have no affiliation with you nor do those unaware of the statements.

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04 Jan 2011, 3:56 pm

i did not threaten anyone.you know the bumper sticker hippies have.that says in response to the military."arms are for hugging".i made a play on words.it was a joke.i dont even know who you guys are.i was just having fun with being viewed as a hippie.the whole point of the post was that just because your against autistic in fighting doesnt mean you have no opinions



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04 Jan 2011, 6:43 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umEOP609pnk&feature=related[/youtube]

I'm not going to argue with concern to what you said as it can serve as an example despite intention. It's up for interpretation. If it was humor in intent and you don't actually desire or fantasize about using violence to progress your point of view then this ultimately is good. So as long as you don't end up hitting people I really do believe in the freedom of speech including symbolic freedom of speech as I grew up in a military family and freedom is what the philosophic principles were about in protection. I'd say the political views with the members of the military are diverse despite orders. National security however does exist in spite of dignity and is subject to interpretation as well.



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04 Jan 2011, 9:39 pm

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i did not threaten anyone.you know the bumper sticker hippies have.that says in response to the military."arms are for hugging".i made a play on words.it was a joke.i dont even know who you guys are.i was just having fun with being viewed as a hippie.the whole point of the post was that just because your against autistic in fighting doesnt mean you have no opinions


Can you please use the space bar and punctuation? Seriously, it's not that hard to do.


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05 Jan 2011, 1:39 am

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vermontsavant wrote:
i did not threaten anyone.you know the bumper sticker hippies have.that says in response to the military."arms are for hugging".i made a play on words.it was a joke.i dont even know who you guys are.i was just having fun with being viewed as a hippie.the whole point of the post was that just because your against autistic in fighting doesnt mean you have no opinions


Can you please use the space bar and punctuation? Seriously, it's not that hard to do.


If I may say a joke.

I am not good at grammar myself. Aside from some punctuation I just don't get it. They tried to cram that in my brain in special education classes.

I once heard the term grammar Nazi's.



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05 Jan 2011, 4:15 am

i dont see how my spelling is so bad.why are we are being so worried about grammer on a autism website.dont we all have comunication problems.no im not calling you the spelling nazi's.anymore than im a criminal.i think we need to take a chill pill.nor do i think anyone a autism speaks is a nazi either.im certainly not in favor of abortion,but most of the militant curbie's at autism speaks still think vacines cause autism.so why would people who think autism is man made make an issue of pre natal screening.lets stop calling each other names.however if i can find dr mengala profile on autism speaks i will call the mousad right away



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05 Jan 2011, 4:43 am

Yeah just not fact. Most implies you have statistics. Typical reverse accusations. The war on autism is supposed to be about quality of life logically. However malicious assumption made a butt out of itself long ago. It's getting old. Bottom line is I see advocates two ways.

1. Do they help and when they do is the help more then for themselves and beneficial universally at least sometimes.

2. Do they cause problems more then they create solutions to problems they didn't create in the first place.

I really do believe some advocates should apologize and from both sides. I think they do a good job of alienating themselves and those who think at least kind of similarly. I don't expect anyone to apologize to me. Ultimately the fruits of my work are not based upon adversity that create good results but more so by my ability to not even consider the polar extremes and just do what I believe is right.



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05 Jan 2011, 5:17 am

i would agree with you.there is nothing wrong with curbie or pride mite view points,only when strong feeling get taken to far to the point where they cease to be productive is there a problem.medicine and self respect are both vital aspects of mental health.i cant realy disagree with curbie's or pride mites.however cooperation is a vital aspect of politics



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05 Jan 2011, 5:28 am

With as much energy spent on debating silly words and dignity issues which cannot be resolved universally I believe the quality of life, inclusion and choices of individuals with autism and other developmental disabilities would have been greatly enhanced. It's a social disaster this online self-advocacy movement when indeed those seriously in need of help commonly least to me in person are oblivious of this online and even offline horse pooh. I have very little faith in others in the autism community both self-advocates, parents and advocates in general. I never achieved anything by asking and looking to the autism community at large.

It's been the so called neurotypical folk and professionals that in spite of my strict, rigid and requiring of political distance for conflict of interest reasons that time and time again seem to enable the solutions I create in advocacy. It would be a dream if online people would help and offline disability advocacy. But I'd require they be leaders themselves and find a way to look past the social distractions to create real change. I have very little faith in this and don't require it ultimately.

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