Neurodiversity is not a 'nice word for autism supremacy'!

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Yeah, there's a lot to be refined and learned of it. It may require a long time. I could die with some happiness if I knew that it will eventually succeed after I'm gone.

Who would choose to remain impaired? Seriously. Tell me. Anyway, even children would choose not to be impaired. Even a child has the sense to do basic things that are beneficial for them. Just an experience of their existence in nature would be all the info. they would need. What does Autism Speaks have to do with genocide? Ironic, that you say that you want children to decide, but you say that you don't want yours to be fixed. What of the opinion of your own children?

i believe he said to wait so they could decide. over 20,000 people support neurodiversity. thats a lot so don't belittle us.

Oh there already are ways such as improve the environment.........rather then manipulating an individuals brain chemistry and wiring trying to get them to function in an unhealthy, negative environment.

Where do you get that figure from? And that's not a lot as a percentage of the millions on the spectrum.

Kinda like the song Brain Damage 're-arrange me till I'm sane.'? But hey if someone with autism would like a cure I won't stand in their way but I am sure there are quite a few people with autism who prefer their brains are not 're-arranged'.

I wonder what aspects of the environment would be involved.

thats the number of members of the largest neurodiversity site, aspies for freedom.

Well what things in your environment make things more difficult for you? It kinda varies.

But say a kid with autism goes to a school where he/she is treated as an outcast and gets bullied all the time.....at home they have all kinds of family problems going on and no real way to leave the situation. Well maybe some of those factors need changing and not so much the individual with autism.

It's been proven people with mental disorders/illnesses/conditions function better in more supportive, healthy, positive environments....hell people in general function better that way. I mean take public school for instance they want everyone to learn the exact same things the exact same way making the environment very unpleasant for kids who learn a different way or maybe have a specific area of interest. Well education could be made more individualized but it's easier just to try and mold the people who don't fit the mold so that they do...regardless of what negative effects that might have on the individual.

But those kinds of things don't cause the actual impairments. I heard they could have some influence during very early ages when the brain is very malleable.

Really? personal experience and psychology tell me differently. For one if the things I described are severe enough they can cause PTSD especially in individuals prone to anxiety disorders. Other then that though it can certainly contribute to all sorts of impairments such as the impairments caused by depression which can certainly be related to problems like that. Bullying and constant family problems don't cause the impairments autism causes but they can certainly contribute to the co-morbid disorders and impairments caused by them.

So basically negative social and environmental factors don't cause autism, but they can certainly make things worse.

Me.

Also, I've heard others on the spectrum explicitly say the same thing to me, and I'm not talking about mild "only a bit socially awkward" situations.

bah most pro cure anti cure buisness is self indulgant emotional BS,

research is alwayts needed, people have a right to choose and we are all too different (nt's and aspies alike) that any one absolutist answer will ever be right, no matter what that answer might be.

AFAIK, though I might have been misinformed, Autism Speaks was developing a genetic test to help people identify children with Autism with the purpose of preventing them from being born. I've read some other posts and perhaps this was not their intent, I will have to get better educated on the matter. I'm sorry, I meant I don't want anyone fixing my kids without their consent. I wouldn't mind an aspie kid wanting to bi-function and have both neurotypical and savant neurodiversity, I would love to have this, but I would worry that perceptions in the media might influence my aspie kid to believe that he needs to give up being who he is. I would certainly have many F2F discussions with my kids about it and make sure they were completely open with me about their thoughts. I wouldn't hide my motives and I would explain that it's ok to want more experience and talent out of life. I also, as I've stated earlier in threads you read that I want establish culture before using gene therapy, society is still under development and ever improving. What today doesn't fly, might be just fine with a different mentality among us.

As for LFAs, I suppose the test would be whether or not they could raise children of their own. Evolution stops where there isn't another generation, so I wouldn't be enabling their evolution if I didn't allow them to procreate. I would probably want to see my LFA become a multi-talented talented aspie and possibly bi-functionality as a secondary choice. Of course I'm also expecting immortality to arrive, so there should be plenty of time in a person's life for this.

I'm tired as I write this, so expect I may change some of my positions at a later time...

@sweetleaf

Western PA? (grammar gave you away... or it's a typo)

hmm?