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13 Jul 2013, 8:22 pm

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its a legal technicality concerning concent,not an intentional indorsment of raping developmentaly disabled people.like in the US when someone who is clearly guilty walks on legal technicality.i would not interperate this a pre meditated bigotry towards people with developmental differences
Thank you. This is exactly what it is.
There is no law that specifically say 'But if the victim has a disability, there will be no legal repucussions'. I am sure there are cases similar to this all over the world, where even though it is evident that a crime has been comitted, the evidence or some legal jargon allows the perpitrator to walk.
Personally, I would be fine with comitting innocent people to jail for the mere suspicion of certain crimes; I'd rather have 200000 innocently suspected pedofiles or rapists or murderers or abusers rot in jail, than let a singel guilty one go, but the law is the law.



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13 Jul 2013, 9:43 pm

EmberEyes wrote:
vermontsavant wrote:
its a legal technicality concerning concent,not an intentional indorsment of raping developmentaly disabled people.like in the US when someone who is clearly guilty walks on legal technicality.i would not interperate this a pre meditated bigotry towards people with developmental differences
Thank you. This is exactly what it is.
There is no law that specifically say 'But if the victim has a disability, there will be no legal repucussions'. I am sure there are cases similar to this all over the world, where even though it is evident that a crime has been comitted, the evidence or some legal jargon allows the perpitrator to walk.
Personally, I would be fine with comitting innocent people to jail for the mere suspicion of certain crimes; I'd rather have 200000 innocently suspected pedofiles or rapists or murderers or abusers rot in jail, than let a singe guilty one go, but the law is the law.


we also must be carefull because society has desexualized disabled people.in some places a person with aspergers,autism,downs syndrome or anything more serious then adhd or bi polar as a minor cant consent to sex.meaning;if a 16 year old with a developmental disability has a consensual relationship with another,the other person can be charged with statuatory rape.

these beliefs punish those were were open minded and not prejudiced in there dating habbits and stigmatize disabled people as unsophisticated and non sexual


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15 Jul 2013, 1:05 pm

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The nordic countries have a very bad record of treatment of people who are different, and not just with mental and learning disorders. They also mistreat people of different racial and ethnic backgrounds, and people who try to home school their kids. I've been reading stories of such things about the nordic countries for years, but this legal abuse of non typical citizens goes way back in that region. :evil:


This is true, and also true of areas of the US which are heavily populated by people from the Nordic countries. The concept is Janteloven. --If you are familiar with the Hans Christian Andersen Story 'The Ugly Duckling', you will begin to understand the concept, which completely dominates Scandinavian society, though in reality ugly ducklings never become Swans in the end, they just kill themselves, which explains the high rate of depression and suicide in Scandinavian culture.

Anyways, a big Faen til Sverige!


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15 Jul 2013, 3:06 pm

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This is true, and also true of areas of the US which are heavily populated by people from the Nordic countries. The concept is Janteloven. --If you are familiar with the Hans Christian Andersen Story 'The Ugly Duckling', you will begin to understand the concept, which completely dominates Scandinavian society, though in reality ugly ducklings never become Swans in the end, they just kill themselves, which explains the high rate of depression and suicide in Scandinavian culture.

Anyways, a big Faen til Sverige!

That's just ridiculous.



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15 Jul 2013, 5:32 pm

EmberEyes wrote:
That's just ridiculous.


Here's some more ridiculousness for you.

And some video as well:

Denmark:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHepP2ZzhBw[/youtube]

Norway:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6UyGpvG48U[/youtube]

Sweden (Jantelagen)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVSAeGoy9EA[/youtube]


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15 Jul 2013, 7:07 pm

Oh, yes! Now that I have seen this overwhelming evidence in the form of youtube vids...
Let's just agree that your impression of Sweden and the Nordics are not similar to mine, and leave it at that.



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15 Jul 2013, 7:44 pm

Hmmm. It may illegal in Sweden but comes down to the definition of what Rape is? I think previous poster is correct this goes beyond the Aspergers to a societal one where the society has to make a conciuous decision to make to change things. Having done to mentally impaired person saying that the cannot feel is also wrong. One way is to basically inudate the newspapers and human right groups of statistics of facts where the point they can not ignore it.

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16 Jul 2013, 7:44 am

I think that the idea that you'd rather see thousands of innocents jailed than one guilty go free is sick.

Frankly, I hope you have the experience of being falsely accused of something horrible simply because you don't "look" or "act right."

Other than that, very hard to be sure I understand the translation correctly, but it looks the same as in other countries--

A rapist with a good lawyer walks away, mostly becuase the victim doesn't have much of a prosecutor at all.

As far as resigning ourselves to getting raped goes-- Guess what, a lot of us have been dehumanized and demoralized enough that we do that anyway.


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25 Jul 2013, 9:05 pm

This is messed up. I thought Sweden was a much more altruistic country than that!


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03 Aug 2013, 7:39 pm

What in the name of chickadees?!?!?!?!?!