An (Urban) AS Community?

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If you are serious, I could direct you to some Aspie-Israelis who want to establish one. They hope to partially rely on government funding, to establish the AspieKibbutz in either the Galilee or the Negev. (I think they stand no chance).

Me too. Set it up in either Brooklyn, or Queens, NYC, and I might be tempted to cross the Atlantic and settle there.
I might consider other locations as well, such as Boston, Baltimore, DC, or perhaps San Fran, Portland (OR), or Seattle.

Check this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autistic_culture

Or this "AUTISM NETWORK INTERNATIONAL: THE DEVELOPMENT OF A COMMUNITY AND ITS CULTURE":
http://www.autreat.com/History_of_ANI.html
It describes a group of autistics who have been building a community together for over twenty years.

All of which are far too expensive for an early proof of concept. I'd love to impliment the concept in those locations, but it's just too expensive.

a totalitarian separatist state like North Korea
no coca cola or macdonalds
all hail your leader

I don't see the validity of comparisions btween voluntary residents of apartment/co-op/condo buildings, and a repressive dictatorship.

Lets implement the concept in 19th century Queens, NYC. It will be cheap, and will allow both AspieBurg and Aspie Acres to co-exist within one geographical location. We just need to find a reliable time-machine, to get us there. Since we are all aspies, I guess we could develop such a time machine within a reasonable time frame.

i dont see the validity of half of what you say either.... oh well

So... any more interest?

I vote that the market garden be called Sweet Aspie Acres.

Any ideas of Aspie friendly businesses?

Yes - The Tea House Theatre, in London. They are letting a group of aspie performers put on a show there:
http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt224152.html

Magneto, are you refering to "Businesses that are friendly to (help) Aspies", or "Businesses that are owned by Aspies"? From previous questions and posts, I'm going to guess (for the purpose of this post) that you mean the later, please correct me if I'm in error on that.

Unfortunately, this is where the "rubber meets the road", and our ideas start to hit real dificulty. AspieBURG would have no real economic existance without "co-located" businesses, but it would be hard to find said businesses without an existing AspieBURG.

I see three reasonable ways to resolve this problem:
(in no particular order)

1. Bring Aspie tele-commuters/remote workers together in a residence. For business meetings, have a conference room downstairs. This approach is the cheapest, but might be difficult to set up without proof of concept.
2. Have Aspie-owned or Aspie-employee businesses located in or next to the future AspieBURG. This requires the businesses to be existing before AspieBURG.
3. Arrange to have an existing business move to AspieBURG and serve as the "economic engine" for AspieBURG. This would be site and situation-specific, so it's hard to generalize.

The nice thing is, you can have a combination of option 1,2, and 3 to get to AspieBURG.

Happy to be here again!



If I understand your point of view well, what you see in the term AspieBURG, it's a kind of chinatown or an aspiatown It's not a bad idea. I agree that it would be a good distribution point for product we can made anywhere else. That can give some traction to the construction of an aspian culture. And can be a good start



Interresting... nevertheless I share your point of view they stand no chance (at least if they rely on government help). This is something that must be done by us and only us. Nobody will give us anything free we will have to work hard for everything. But we will can be proud of our achievement because we will did it alone.

BTW, I said «AspieKibbutz» between «...» because I see the Kibbutz concept as an inspiration not as a model. My main inspiration is the ayllu, but very few peoples know what an ayllu is... It is the base unit of the inca empire (tawantinsuyu), a village of some sort. The most interresting point is that they used no money at all. There was no wishfull thinking like «the magic hand of market», things where do on a rational and efficient way at the lowest level possible. The whole empire was a big fractal structure. And the best of all it's working! That work for small village (ayllu) and for many millions of peoples too (the whole empire). Every body have a job, a house, a place under the sun and what they needed to live.

I think that can be interresting to be moneyless inside and use money outside, trading with the NT world to get money. I can imagine an aspie communauty and even a network of communauty working on the same economique model as the inca empire (or someting strongly inspired of it). It will be easy to instituate concept like ayni, mitta, minka. With the technologie we have today those things can be organised with a greater efficacity than the inca did. A such economy can be optimised by use of the graph theorie, taking in account the law of physic (thermodynamic, etc.),etc. instead of relaying on an out dated mecanist view & magic and wishfull thinking.

The only thing needed is peoples who are ready to do it (my views or any other). Some body told me once that this is like to trying to lead cats. This is true, I think. So the first question to answer is «what can rally peoples?». The second is «is it doable?» if not what can be done to stick to it the most. As far I can see the AspieBURG ou aspietown is the most popular paradigme. So it can be a good idea to explore the way to implement it.

Question like the following must be answered before anything...
On what economic base this will stand?
The form of the communauty? (capitalistic,incaïque, consensual or representative democracy, etc.)
On this we will need to seek the consensus, the most popular point of view.

Perhaps facilitate a discussion about an urban/rural AS community at Autreat 2013?
( Autreat 2013: http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt226585.html )

Such a discussion needs not be a part of Autreat's formal program. It needs not be suggested to the planning committee in advance. It can be suggested on-site and announced on Autreat's notice board. I hope such a discussion could have at least a few interested participants.

Hmmmmm, not sure how to go about suggesting or planning out such a discussion, but if there's an advocate for a rural Aspie community there, I'll be happy to have a discussion. Chatham House Rules, of course.

Thanks for mentioning this thread in the other thread. It is the answer I would have expected with a larger poll count. per Aspieburg vs. AspieAcres. Cool words, by the way.

AspieBURG is faster, and has more access to services than AspieAcres. AspieBURG could be set up in months with the proper support, AspieAcres has a longer lead time. AspieAcres is a term I created to serve as something of a broad reference to the various different "rural" concepts out there, and I think the term is a fair one to the supporters of such a concept.

I'm on record (repeatedly) as supporting the concept of a "rural" location, I just don't think I'm personally the first one to contact to set one up.

Just to clarify, in case my communication was not clear, I do really like the words you designed, in case my comment came across as "cool story bro", instead of a sincere compliment.

The only way I use a smile is for a positive intonation of communication. It doesn't make sense to me to use it as a sarcastic symbol, but I do see others do that, per context of what other are writing. I guess it means they are laughing at them, which I do not see as cool, literally

I more often use wit rather than aggression when it is obvious someone is attempting to find some emotional buttons to press.