Are limitations forced on us by society?
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Ann2011 wrote:
the-comander wrote:
first of all it was the 70s: id say every medication you could ever want was right in front of you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaqQhdt1qqk
second of all i honestly feel like i have to be here in a way but thats kinda besides the point.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaqQhdt1qqk
second of all i honestly feel like i have to be here in a way but thats kinda besides the point.
I agree, weed is helpful. But honestly, Serequel has been the best medication I've taken.
Serequel makes me drowsy, irritable and screws with my cooridination and makes me feel disassociated from myself, I found it to be quite the nasty drug....but at least it helps some people.
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the-comander wrote:
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While plenty of autistic people do succeed in their careers, I think a lot of us who don't succeed aren't at fault ourselves. Society isn't set up for us to work, really. For one thing, to get most jobs, you have to do an interview. What kind of people are bad at social interaction, talking about themselves, and the kind of minor deceit that job interviews encourage? Autistic people. Then, if you get the job, there are more parameters that don't work for us -- the social atmosphere of work, doing customer service, dealing with stress, following verbal instructions, fluorescent lights...
And of course, there's no real support for invisible disabilities/mental health issues. You can't go home if you have a shutdown. You can't take days off because you can't bear to talk to anyone. There's no one to help you organize your tasks, the way you might get in school (if you're lucky).
Like, I'm quite intelligent. I could do a lot of different things, but because of the places my impairments are (memory, executive functioning), I can't do them without help. But in the adult world, no one wants to help you. It's stupid and we need to overhaul a lot of systems that are in place so everyone has a fair shot.
And of course, there's no real support for invisible disabilities/mental health issues. You can't go home if you have a shutdown. You can't take days off because you can't bear to talk to anyone. There's no one to help you organize your tasks, the way you might get in school (if you're lucky).
Like, I'm quite intelligent. I could do a lot of different things, but because of the places my impairments are (memory, executive functioning), I can't do them without help. But in the adult world, no one wants to help you. It's stupid and we need to overhaul a lot of systems that are in place so everyone has a fair shot.
well then you need to work on things rather then making excuses and sitting on your ass and eating chips. those are all fairly minor things, I'm sure you can fix them if you put your mind to it. honestly this sounds more like being mildly ditzy then it does like a crippling disability. i think if you put your mind to it you could get a job. you start playing a lot of puzzle games like Tetris and stuff a lot and you could probably fix the whole executive functioning bit that easy. you should start doing sedoku and stuff as well. start reading longer books and memorizing stuff from wikipedia. there are a lot of ways you could handle these things. just try harder and make things work. frankly there are some pretty simple physical labour jobs that probably wouldn't even require that much memory anyway, i think if you put your mid to it you can make it all work out, like i said you seem to think your in a wheelchair or something but this stuff is ll abstract and chemical and experiences, its not physical in the same way and it can be changed if you put your mind to it and its not like being mentally ret*d where somethings seriously defective. you can change your life and YOU CAN make things work. just know that i believe in you and that I'm sure people a lot closer then i am believe in you which is really what matters most. you can get a job.
Where does the assumption that the Op is just making excuses and sitting on their ass eating chips come from? are you watching them through their web-cam like a weird creeper/hacker or have psychic abilities?
impairments with memory and executive function are hardly the same thing as being mildly ditzy, it can actually be pretty debilitating when it takes you 30 minutes to decide what shirt to put on for instance....or you get anxious and stressed because you simply don't know where to start with something....and cannot make you're brain clear up.
Also please do find some form of evidence that simply playing puzzle games cures executive functioning difficulties people with autism have.....Its a bit more complex then that, not to mention I've played lots of puzzle games and my executive functioning difficulties did not go away. Also I read a crap load growing up and guess what still had executive functioning difficulties, as well as short term memory difficulties. Just trying harder does not get rid of the impairments autism or any other mental condition might cause.
Also it seems the OP thinks they are struggling with autism related difficulties, not that they think they are in a wheelchair, perhaps you need to work on your comprehension skills. And there is no way for you to know whether someone you don't even know can get a job or not based on a single thread.
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I think society forces limitations on everyone, starting in school, where anyone who deviates from the norm is bullied until they "fix" themselves. And stuff like, say, high intelligence is outside the norm.
It seems like being above or below average makes a person the scum of our society. Some people can hide those things and get by unscathed, but ASD people can't hide their social limitations and such.
random_girl wrote:
I think society forces limitations on everyone, starting in school, where anyone who deviates from the norm is bullied until they "fix" themselves. And stuff like, say, high intelligence is outside the norm.
It seems like being above or below average makes a person the scum of our society. Some people can hide those things and get by unscathed, but ASD people can't hide their social limitations and such.
It seems like being above or below average makes a person the scum of our society. Some people can hide those things and get by unscathed, but ASD people can't hide their social limitations and such.
i think that its all inforced pretty well, i think that its clear that a lot of you have been told so many times that you cant do what you want that youve decided it isnt even worth trying. i admire what your saying greatly because of that, honestly i think that weve all been forced into this little corner and told we cant be cool and that no one likes us for who we are and i think most of the people here to some extent have excepted that. the atitude here seems to generally be that learning is normalizing and that you can either not be yourself or never grow up or change and i think thats really part of whats limiting us. as a kid i got the help i needed and i learned the skills i needed but at the same time i dont feel i lost who i was or that it hurt me at all, i feel that at the end of the day i am basicly the same as everyone one else and that ill be able to get a job and everything. i think that theres this exspectation that were all the same and were not and i think that we could just as easily fight the world as be forced to be weird little tech geeks stuck in our rooms all day but i think many people arent strong enough to do that myself included. i think that were not all the same and i think my of us could be intelectuals or artists, i admire what you just said greatly and honestly i think id like to stay in contact with you if possible because of it. maybe i came off a bit strong im just tired of hearing people say they cant do s**t or that its just impossible. i dont know, maybe some of you have had harder lives then me. i just feel like theres kindof an atitude of self defeation and i feel like its something thats been told to us and that its been something thats been learned. i feel like rather then trying to find solutions some people are trying to avoid them. i guess i just think its really cool to actually here someone say that and to actually confront some of whats going on.
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