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11 Oct 2010, 3:37 am

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I was watching CNN a few days ago, and I found some news that I thought might interest you:

A severely autistic 13-year old and his mom were banned from attending mass at their local church in Minnesota. The church's reason why they did what they did was that the boy was "disruptive and dangerous." Why? He fights, urinates, and almost knocked over children and elderly people. So they filed a restraining order against the boy and his mom so that none of those things would happen again.

So what do you think of that? 8O


While being non-christian and critical of christianity, I don't think the mother should force the boy to attend mass. Moreover, the church has a responsibility for the safety of all people there. If the kid is hitting other children, he shouldn't simply be there. It was not a matter of him being autistic, but of being unruly.



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11 Oct 2010, 6:43 am

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Amen. Wait, can atheists say amen?


They can, but God shall smite them ...


Amen is Latin. As well ask "can atheists say malus?"


Actually, Amen is a hebrew word that was assimilated into ecclesiastical latin due to it's use in religious ceremony :wink:



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11 Oct 2010, 5:33 pm

If he was being THAT disruptive then I think they have that right. Besides, it sure as hell sounds like HE doesn't want to be there either.



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11 Oct 2010, 7:19 pm

I don't think it has anything to do with hating autism in general, infact, if you have Asperger's, you can still become a priest which was a question that I asked my priest about when he was talking to my youth group about vocations in that church. Many of the people at my church love me because of my innocence that I still maintain which they don't see in many people my age anymore. I have a good work ethic and when working at the church's resale shop, they can count on me for getting the job done because I will put my whole heart into everything I do and I am always filled with passion.

I think the poor kid definitely did not feel comfortable being there and I think it would have been best for the mother to realize that and leave before it got worse. You don't want to push children with autism into uncomfortable situations if at all possible or at least have them ease into them, like church sounded like it was too much for him at the time.



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11 Oct 2010, 7:26 pm

Tensu wrote:
DandelionFireworks wrote:
wavefreak58 wrote:
Fehndrix wrote:
Amen. Wait, can atheists say amen?


They can, but God shall smite them ...


Amen is Latin. As well ask "can atheists say malus?"


Actually, Amen is a hebrew word that was assimilated into ecclesiastical latin due to it's use in religious ceremony :wink:


Thanks. :D


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12 Oct 2010, 8:43 pm

I don't think the priest hated him because he was severely autistic, but he was too disruptive during the mass, and was a physical threat to others as well. His parents probably refused all accommodations, including the thought of having someone bring Communion to their home because they wanted the community that their church provided. I think that the autistic kid could have been uncomfortable because of sensory overload, and his mother didn't notice or care that he was uncomfortable. NT's who are forced to go to church by their parents find other ways to rebel without disrupting the service, but this autistic kid didn't have any other way to communicate. In the end, that priest did that kid a favor because one way to make someone hate organized religion is to force a child to go to church when they don't like it.


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19 Oct 2010, 11:28 am

I don't think he was banned for being autistic, but for the disruptive behavior caused by the autism. Non-autistics would be banned for doing similar things. Perhaps they could explain the thing to their priest, and maybe he can get mass in a different place. Or maybe he doesn't like church, and shouldn't be forced to go. Some people just don't like being religious.



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19 Oct 2010, 1:16 pm

pinkiepie wrote:
So what do you think of that? 8O


Oh well. :shrug:

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I say: good for them for kicking out an obviously problematic individual rather than going limp-**** just because he is mentally handicapped. It isn't fair for the other churchgoers.


Nore is the Church's common use of turning up the speakers full blast for a deaf elder sitting way in the back seat.



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21 Oct 2010, 12:10 am

I don't think he was banned for being autistic, but for the disruptive behavior caused by the autism. Non-autistics would be banned for doing similar things. Perhaps they could explain the thing to their priest, and maybe he can get mass in a different place. Or maybe he doesn't like church, and shouldn't be forced to go. Some people just don't like being religious.