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11 Apr 2009, 1:47 am

The main reason to be afraid of NT's is that they are creatures guided by feelings, they are not sure of what they do.



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12 Apr 2009, 7:43 pm

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I don't believe in the N.T concept. It's based on a pseudo cultural fallacy of mind differences manifested of mostly unneeded and divisional social discourses.


No. In neuroscience & elsewhere related, as common knowledge (I'm a neuroscientist) this term, Neurotypical (NT) just means one who is not autistic.

well, the term neurotypical used by the autistic community as well as the neurodiversity movement have seem to be questionable to me, given the social, cultural and political issues, I get the neurological differences from autistics and non-autistics, but labeling neurotypical to non-autistics individuals within neuroscience, is something that I honestly find somehow difficult to grasp, I mean, non-autistic people can have neurological differences or disorders, whichever term you prefer, given that, I ask, how valid and accurate is to label such individual as neurotypical?


I am a chemist, now a grad student in Neuroscience. What I related, about the terminology of 'Neurotypical,' which means 'One who is not Autistic' I was not guessing or assigning a value statement - this is just a given. Much like saying, "Michael is male, whereas Claire is female." There is no right or wrong, good or bad - the term 'Neurotypical' is as defined.

I hope that clarifies. The definition is objective, as a diagnostic label - nothing more, nothing less. And, yes, the term Neurotypical is perfectly ok to use and say. And understood in the field of Neuroscience.


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13 Apr 2009, 12:58 am

I tend to not fear anyone. Fear gives those who like to use fear to gain power over people one more thing they can hold over me, or anyone else to get me, or anyone else to do as they, not I, or anyone else, wish. I don't fear people, instead I fear failure and not being able to get my life back on track as it once were. That is all I fear.

NT's are more like Aspies than not.We are all human as previously stated. An NT can be a nice person or they can be a jerk, same holds true for an Aspie. We are defined not by our conditions, but instead what we choose to do about them. I've learned how to not let the differences between myself, and someone without Aspergers bother me, because for most of my life, I thought I was just a person with a different way of looking at life, without knowing I had a condition that's within the Autism Spectrum.For most my life, I thought I had ADD, just without a few of the symptoms. I learned to deal with people on an individual basis, and not generalize. If someone finds that my problems aren't me being lazy, not caring or whatever, but are because of having this condition, and that person still gives me a hard time, I just avoid them, there's nothing written that says I have to associate with them.



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04 May 2009, 6:20 pm

Depends who ther person is for me. There are alot of NTs I hate, but not necessarily because they are NT. I have had moments of being scared of autistic people because I was physically hurt by one once and I find them very unpredictable.


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04 May 2009, 6:27 pm

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I must confess: I am scared of neurotypicals. They are savage wolves, always sniffing my Asperger's even when I conceal it. They want to establish themselves as superior when they in fact are inferior. I want to live in society without having to be surrounded by neurotypicals.

do you really see all of us this way? i am sorry. not all of us are like this. some of us can be very nice, although most of us have low tolerance for chronic complainers.



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06 May 2009, 11:36 pm

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You know, if your afraid of NT's you would in all likelihood be afraid of people with AS.
People have to grow up, NT's have problems just like us aspies, I am sick and tired of
this aspie elitism fear over so called normal people, there is no such thing as a normal
person
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A lot of people of this forum are not educated or not enough intelligent. The term NT exists, but no smart people would use it so frequently as on this forum. And here they use it to denote a sort of different race. This is sooo stupid. I do not even want to argue with that. There is not sense in arguing with people who need to be educated first.

And this guy - Zyborg posts his hideious threads every week - all of them are the same. why the moderators let him do that? Because there are tons and tons of people here who find it interesting to post in his threads.



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06 May 2009, 11:56 pm

I don't fear them that much, most of us share the same fears, worries and problems, with varying degree.



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07 May 2009, 1:16 am

NT's are humans. Aspies are humans. I fear humans.


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07 May 2009, 11:40 am

Why should a person have to fear someone else?


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07 May 2009, 5:11 pm

The stupidity of the original post is that it is based on the assumption that the authour knows who is NT and who is not so typical..... This is ridiculous. How can anybody know that? People around don't walk around with lables naming their mental peculiarities. And just beause someone has never been diagnoses with smth does not mean that person is NORMAL..

HOW DO YOU KNOW PEOPLE AROUND ARE "NORMAL"??????
HOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT SPECTRUM THEY ARE ON IF THEY SOMETIMES DO NOT KNOW IT THEMSELVES????
HOW CAN YOU FEAR ''Neuro typical"" ? this is same as saying I fear AN AVERAGE PERSON AND i DO NOT FEAR ALL SORTS OF DEVIATIONS IN PEOPLE.

THIS IS DUMB.
Will anybody make that guy shut up already? he has opened enough of his dumb topics.



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07 May 2009, 5:23 pm

^ for above......this can be a contentious topic, for sure! Not wanting this forum to be a 'Bash the NT Forum,' and it isn't. We have a lot of great individuals, regardless of their neuropathy. Too many factors is what comprises a person's demeanor.

zyborg has his opinion, and he's entitled. If another takes offense at a specific attack, then do PM a moderator. But, in general terms, differing viewpoints are to be accepted. That is, you don't have to like that opinion, but it's not a personal statement.


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07 May 2009, 5:50 pm

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^ for above......this can be a contentious topic, for sure! Not wanting this forum to be a 'Bash the NT Forum,' and it isn't. We have a lot of great individuals, regardless of their neuropathy. Too many factors is what comprises a person's demeanor.

zyborg has his opinion, and he's entitled. If another takes offense at a specific attack, then do PM a moderator. But, in general terms, differing viewpoints are to be accepted. That is, you don't have to like that opinion, but it's not a personal statement.


Does this mean that insults will not be tolerated if targeted towards an individual, but will when targeted towards a large enough group?



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07 May 2009, 7:28 pm

this topic is taking a break right now.

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