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Apart from that fact that a lot of people wouldn't be comfortable with that at all on any terms (which should not stop those that *WOULD* be from doing it...it just means it is only a partial solution) ...there IS a tiny "us v them" creep in what you are saying that I feel certain is, as yet, unintentional...but in the current climate that could have serious adverse effects in the long term unless caught and corrected.

...and see all other discussions we have had on this subject aside...it just hits me upside the head that the current geopolitical climate is *NOT* a clever time for *ANY* form of minority seperatism.

Put simply that just accelerates the growing imperative in the majority to combine into a collective identity and create ghettos for any minority...and NOT in a nice way, either...

I think it is an interesting idea. People on this forum have a wide range of interests and resources and we might come up with some very interesting threads.

I personally can't go along with the Facebook suggestion - I simply can't participate in regular social media sites - it is a real aversion for me.

If I was younger and unencumbered with wife, kids, mortgages, school fees, rates, health insurance, pension plan, car repayments, superannuation, credit cards,grocery bills, golf club fees, house insurance,car repayments,cable fees, telephone bills, utilities, insurance for cars, savings plan for the kids to go to Uni, holiday fund and a thirsty beer fridge I would be the first to sign up for Aspie Utopia!

Maybe you should look at establishing a cooperative in Silicon Valley where the members can enjoy community and make a good living!

Oh to be young (and free) again!

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I would value your input as to "ways and means" as I think that we may be onto something that could yield positive results for us all.

I'll ponder on it a while... Must get ready to go to work now.

I hope everyone has a great day.

I would like to found out first why people wouldn't be comfortable, and second I think I already explained that us v. them was not my intention. Third what are these serious adverse effects even if people would see things as such? Other than that I don't know what you actually said that could definitetively count as why what I said may be flawed.


Again, where?

If anything minorities have had more freedom to move in to new areas on their own more than ever before. There is less blockbusting against blacks done in the USA than in the seventies and it continues to be frowned upon with increasing strength. Jews have radiated out from clustered groups because they feel more at ease with their neighbours. Italian, irish and polish communities in the USA are more of an anachronism these days. Asian communities continue to be a magnet for certain kinds of businesses but to be honest they are again an anachronism, highly muted. Canada has no such problems at all to my knowledge. In europe anti-muslim feeling is on the rise, yet muslims continue to radiate throughout the cities of europe in wider and less homogenous circles and I know so because the next town over has a very high muslim asian population.

The fact is though is that people feel more comfortable being around people who are similar to them and furthermore a readily available group of neighbours who probably share many interesting similarities that they do not with the rest of humanity is a good idea because if problems arise they are the go-to guys. There's all this isolation I see on the forums that can be helped by people with similar issues. I know you have a predilection to think geographical connections are not important to us but I steadfastly disagree.

Thanks mate!

Have a good day.

I first realised I would always hate communes when I was 14...*shudders*



You can always set up a profile *JUST* for that one forum...and block all pms etc...

The reason why I say facebook is because APART from being able to include a vast quantity of real politicians globally, and, currently, in combination with twitter being *THE* single most effective place to send any concept "viral" at present, the ownership and moderation is, to all intents and purposes, neutral and unbiased.

Which is vital, not only in terms of censorship issues, but also in terms of who feels free to participate.

Living together doesn't exactly mean living cheek-by-jowl if you know what I mean. Hopefully that doesn't sound like an innuendo. It's convenient to live together I must say though and also a flexible exercise! You know what I always wanted to do? I wanted to live in west canada. I think the broad swathe of cold country between yellowknife and vancouver would be a nice place to settle. Then people who don't want to live right next to each other don't have to.

It's also damned pretty and summers are surprisingly warm and it's quiet and snow... snow everywhere! That and vancouver is known for diversity whilst yellowknife is diverse so yeah, that would mean it isn't hostile. There's also this problem in canada where certain sections of society think we are a burden and I feel like thrusting that idea right up their bums. That and native americans as neighbours! Given the latitude we would be like popsicle pilgrim fathers, cooking a caribou on thanksgiving except we would give actual gifts in return and not cholera. As you can see my need to make elfin humour has superceeded my usually dour mood.

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Mate

If you keep this up, I will be asking the wife to move to Canada and she will shoot me!
Have you considered Far North Queensland; a tropical paradise, cheap land and plenty of VERY well paid work on the mines?

Well don't pressure your wife! I call upon you to find footlose of our kind though or those who are truly tired of their annoying isolation and are willing to take up new advice. Taking up good ideas freely really is the core of our being. Being resistant to them only produces quite agressive and stunted minds given we can't rely on recognising inbuilt cues.

What do you think of QLD? Could probably get decent land on peppercorn rental rates? However, you would need to recruit a lot of tradesmen to construct houses and infrastructure. Let me know if I can help! THIS IS A REAL OFFER TO HELP YOU TO ACHIEVE YOUR DREAM (but I want a lot of beer when I come to visit!)

Couldn't I just *not have* the other people AT ALL?

Cos I'd really rather not.

To have my life interconnected and interdependent with other people's (even if I don';t see them) just gives me the total willies.

I have to be able to disconnect totally (not just from physical presence, but all interconnection) just to relax...and I BET I am not the only one...

I know the snow *SOUNDS* beautiful...but if we get another winter like the last two you are WELCOME to arrive here (with a dog sled, snow shoes and a crate of single malt...Tesco's own is fine, but NOT the Islay, that's rebadged TCP)...and SEE HOW LONG YOU LAST...

Don't worry...I do not anticipate a prolonged invasion of my personal space...given a crate of single malt I could handle a full 8 hours interaction standing on my head then pass out for another ten.

Snow is lovely until it becomes a glaring white muffled prison....

You would be screaming for a helicopter by morning...promise...

BREAKTHROUGH!! !!

He finally got the bit where not asking first *and* abiding by the answer = abduction and causes problems with the authorities, as well as distress to the individual.

I don't like snow, I spent three months on an "outdoor" winter warfare course in Norway when I was 18 and a month "living off the land" in an Afghan winter more recently and after that, I will be happy if I never see snow again.

Snow does equal a glaring white muffled prison!

However, a case of 12 YO Bushmills (single malt) or Jameson's (Not a bad blend) would no doubt give me the fortitude to endure it!

Its not really that different in adult life I am now 22 and adult life is not all that different......I have let go of a lot of the past, but it is still a threatening thought that there were people who probably figured it would be easier on everyone if I had suceeded at suicide. No one came out and said it but its not like it was not obvious.

Yeah the difference is now I have a friend and some aquantinces......who are potential friends. But it does not make a lot of the past any less painful or anything.