How can I spread awareness of neurodiversity?

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What the hell is "Neurodiversity"?

The idea that people whith aspergers and autism are capable of functioning equally and are a different strand of human being, yet because of circumstances cannot because of how they are being treated. E.g. the imposition of being forced to act like NTs or being taught in an NT way which ret*ds their development.

Supremely simple in reality and quite realistic given how Autism Speaks enforces say a cure motive and is stuck with frustrated parents who strike out at other autistics as being too 'high-functioning' when what has actually happened is that they managed to tdevelop properly, rather than be turned in to 'subhuman' doormats by their parents.

Of course it would then be foolish to say bad parenting causes autism. It's just pedantic and autocratic parents who cause most of the bad effects in most cases.

I've already clearly stated that I don't like like the option of skin-shock therapy and I don't condone the abuse of the JRC students by the employees of that facility.

But, I don't care what disorder the children have, they deserve what ever help they can get through current and future research. And they also deserve the assurance that they will get proper care, if the Center is closed down.

Self injurous behavior is associated with autism. There are a thousand resources that back this up. And it is a fact that these children have been turned away from other programs, because those programs can't deal with their behaviors.

Since you already suggest you are going to believe self injurous behavior is associated with Autism. You can look it up yourself on Google if you like. Just type in "Autism Self Injurous Behavior".

Don't suggest I am defending the Abuses at the center, because I have not defended it. I have clearly pointed them out and provided evidence of it in the other article on this topic, including a 60page report on torture to the UN. I have also provided detailed facts on why the state continues to allow it. It's not my opinion, it is fact established by the state of Massachussetts.

massachusetts has plenty of recources to deal with children if the JRC were shut down.why am i ignored on this point,i lived in mass for 28 years before i came to vermont.i spent many years in mass programs like the JRC and my father was an acountant for the united ark

These children have already been refused admission in the state of Massachussetts, by other facilities, and have been released by other programs, that could not accommodate the children's problems. That is an evidenced fact. The state does not have control over whether or not private facilities accept these children, with these type of behaviors.

If the JRC closes down, the state needs to ensure the welfare of these children. And there needs to be a facility established somewhere in the US, that will take in cases like these, that occur in the future. Hopefully these issues will be adressed. As of right now they are issues that no one has reported solutions for in the press.

If there were other options now, it is possible that the JRC would not receive the admissions they receive now, because it is a last resort, for some of these children.

This seems to be speculation. What is an evidenced fact? Can you prove that this is true?
I don't think you have produced any sort of evidence showing that these people could not be put elsewhere. You seem to keep trying to say that they are somehow the most dangerous when in fact the case is that they may very well not be, but that simply their parents knew about the Judge Rotenberg Centre.

You seem to think that saying there is proof is somehow proof in of itself. Can you produce actual evidence rather than say it is 'evidenced'?

Autism is an inherently disabling condition that has bad effects for some children. Genetics play a role, but there is no evidence that pedantic or autocratic parents cause most of the bad effects in most cases.

Aspergers is characterised by verbose and pedantic communication. Since it is a genetic condition, pedantic communication by a parent, would not be a huge surprise.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism



An Autocratic style of leadership/personality, is a style of leadership for those who feel the need to control all aspects of their environment as well as employees, it can be the extension of the need to maintain routine and structure for someone with the traits of Aspergers.

If an individual with Aspergers ends up in a management position, this can be the result, whether or not they intend it or not. Mark Zuckerberg and Bill Gates, whom are not diagnosed with Aspergers, but appear to obviously be somewhere on the broader autism phenotype, are excellent examples when someone with the traits of Aspergers gains responsibility over others.

Steve Jobs is another example of someone likely on the broader autism phenotype, that displayed the same management style. Other examples outside of speculation of Aspergers are Larry Ellison, and Jack Welch.

And, a small world it is, with the founder of Autism Speaks, whom was Jack Welch's right hand man, as we know, went on to have a grandchild with autism, and continues to run a detailed oriented, extremely successful charitible organization.

All these individuals were hugely successful in their endeavors, but it wasn't always fun for those whom worked for them.

Pedanticism, in part, can be the result of focusing on detail, and Autocratic (micromanagement) leadership style is not only an extension of focusing on detail, but can also be the result of adherence to routine, structure, and the need to control one's environment, which can extend to people as well, when they become responsible for them.

It is very possible that a Youth with Aspergers. could display pedantic and autocratic traits as well as a Parent of a child with Aspergers who has aspergers as well. Two people can't be in control of everything, and the child does not get the nod, in a parent and child relationship.

And it's not necessarily the parent who may be the autocratic and/or pedantic one in the relationship, particularly if the parent does not have the condition of Aspergers.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_an_example_of_pedantic



A endless logical assault of circular discussion can be the result when two individuals with Aspergers get in an conversation whom have these pedantic/autocratic tendencies.

Particularly, if one or both don't understand that this as an inherent communication difficulty, for them.

And on the other hand, the pedantic is often ignored by the non-pedantic, unless the pedantic one is the boss. That is, at least, if they won't to keep their job, in some cases.

Sometimes the individual one seeks to identify, is no further than the mirror.

Somewhere I posted my interpretation of neurodiversity...

Neurodiversity - everyone thinks differently and we benefit more from diversity in thought. Everyone is neurodiverse and we are but a group of similar people under the spectrum label. Men and women are neurodiverse, as are people from other cultures or interests.

The neurodiversity movement functions to enable the recognition of differing thought and lifestyles.

It's supremely simple but it isn't in reality and it ain't realistic. It's an unsubstantiated idea.

Seems a lot like Bettelheim.

What's the difference? If you want to blame what you portray as mean parents for being what prevents an autistic from being high-functioning, just say so.

Perhaps it wasn't a problem in Massachussetts then, but the state has received large budget cuts in funding for mental health programs. There is a waiting list to get into the JRC, as well as many other facilities.

These are problems of general access to mental health care in Massachussetts, beyond the serious nature of the problems of the children's serious self-injurious behaviors and their inability to find a facility that will accept and/or retain them, as reported in the sources I provided in the topic on this subject.

It is been a difficulty for children with an acute condition to even get a bed in the psychiatric unit of a Hospitcal in the state.

Some of the children, who attend the JRC were transferred from corrections facilities, by court ordered direction.

There is definitely a serious problem of caring for individuals with mental health issues, today in Massachussetts.

If the JRC closes, there is definitely going to be a problem for placing these children, if plans are not made well before the facility is closed. That is, if there are alternatives available.

This may be part of why the facility remains open after evidence of abuse, against much protest. The state may not have an alternative for these children.

http://www.boston.com/news/health/articles/2010/10/27/hospitals_turn_away_troubled_youths/?page=1



A more recent source:

htttp://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/2011/03/murders_of_massachusetts_menta.html

@aghogday.i wasnt talking about private schools i was talking about public institutions.i have explained that a million times.the mass dept of social services can easlily absorb the exess of JRC if it closes.i feel like i talk to a thin air on this forum.and i thought i told you and parfumoaffair not to quote each other.no one listened to that either

As evidenced in the source I provided on the thread specific to this topic, self injurious behavior includes gouging one's eyes, and biting one's body parts off. Perhaps we can come up with more dangerous examples, but I don't see it serving any useful purpose.

There is a problem for anyone with mental health conditions to be placed in Massachussetts, per recent budget cuts, and policies within institutions, as evidenced in my last post. It is obviously going to be even more of a problem, with those that have these serious issues.

And as I stated, in the last post, it may be part of why the JRC is staying open, even after abuses were evidenced. The state may have no alternatives for these children, at this point in time.

western mass has the kutchins instiute,tri county,our lady of providence in holyoke and a program in westfield.many other group homes and program absorbed the population when northamton state hospital closed in the 90'

The article, in my last post explains that the shortages are in public institutions, not private institutions.

It's not my opinion. The sources from the state are reporting serious shortages and serious problems for people who are seeking mental health care. If you can provide evidence that it's not a problem please do, but the sources suggest it is a serious problem.

I haven't visited the thread yet, on that specific topic. Perhaps we could continue the conversation over there, I feel like I am derailing the thread here per the current topic on neurodiversity.

As evidenced seems to be a phrase that you use to mean that you say something rather than provide a reliable source. Why is that? Can you actually back up how massachussets budget cuts are affecting the JRC?
Why is it that you try to defend the barbaric practices of the JRC due to budget cuts even though it would probably be cheaper not to use a system that uses electrical torture?
Can you actually explain how such injurous self-directed behaviour still justifies the facility staying open even after it has killed multiple people? It doesn't take much thought to know that biting one's own flesh on occasion when let out of restriction is far more preferable to being barbecued alive by electric shock 'therapy'.