Some one explain the problems with Autism Speaks?

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There isn't really a way for everyone to have the same IQ.

I've thought that many get soft when not having to worry of safety, and get reluctant to do harsh things to bring change. I doubt they'd let things collapse here in a chaotic way, as they know that could increase the chances of rebellion. I don't think the powers that be could keep control internationally if they lose control in the U.S.

I wonder if someday they could do something like that.

I hope not that would be weird.

Agreed. And again, Dalurker, people have different IQs because their ways of processing thoughts are different; they don't process thoughts differently because of their IQs.

IQ doesn't characterize difference in thought processing. It measures something. It measures speed, memory, problem solving, and things like that. Those aren't just neutral differences. It measures ability to do cognitive tasks.

See?

Yes , I think I see.

I don't.

go back a few pages...and you might.

y "See?" was about how people take hating Autism Speaks so personally.

I'm a parent. When I had my kids, I had no clue I had any type of autism or that there was any other type of it that didn't mess your child up for life. I imagine that most people are still that way. I didn't know different until I was told about AS and dx'd with it.

Oh. I get it now.

But most do not. And if I had a severely autistic child, one that was very low functioning, I would give anything to cure him. If a parent wouldn't care enough to want to help that child, then they don't deserve to be a parent!

Isn't acceptance also kind of important. Maybe some of us feel alienated because everyone was so focused on wanting us to change who we are to be more normal. Maybe some lower functioning people or even higher functioning people, do want to work to be more like a neurotypical or maybe it would benefit some of them. But at the same time its hard to have a sense of identity when everyone's always pointing out everything wrong with you. I didn't even know I had any sort of autism as a kid, and I don't know anyone else did but I sure got hell for what I later found out are related to symptoms of Aspergers. I mean getting bullied is traumatizing, its not abnormal for someone to be distrustful of those trying to change them...when it reminds them of those experiances. The mentally ill person may not be able to understand whether or not the therapists and such have good intentions and that can be disturbing to them.

So there is certainly some truth to what you say, but I don't know that it is so much the mentally ill or autistic individuals choice to react to things in such ways, maybe you don't either. I mean since there is not currently a cure I do not see what is wrong with accepting autistic invidiuals and trying to give them a positive environment is not a bad idea. Just my opinion maybe therapy in which they use adverse conditioning or whatever in which bad(autistic behavior) is either ignored or penalized and good(neurotypical) behavior is rewarded. I mean basically telling someone every aspect of them is wrong probably does not do much for their self esteem. But this is all just my opinion I don't claim to be 100% correct and I could even be wrong.

Well of course. Eventually they can get a job at the "Rock In The Corner" institute.

The "Pee Your Pants" pavilion might also offer them a job.

"Lack of Communication" is usually looking for new people.

I don't know what I was thinking.

My bad.

Go low functioning!

We should start a publicity campaign to make parents wish for this!! !! !! !

Right then , Anyways is it really so wrong for one to want a better society that is not so intolerant towards people with disabilities. I know if someone cannot function to the level others expect people should try to beat correct neurotypical behavior into them right? Why not acknowledge that there are good things about some of these individuals they are not empty shells to mold into whatever the general public would like they are people with emotions, feelings and thoughts and that should be acknowledged more. Why should someone be made to feel bad about themselves because they have a disorder they did not choose to have? Also considering how high the rate of mental illness is in this country I think it reflects a sick society rather than a rise in sick individuals.

What about all those neurotypicals that love to dump oil in the Gulf of Mexico ?

But what if the child does not want to be "cured"? What if the child merely wishes more than anything that the parent would adjust to him/her? (And before I get hated on, everyone please keep in mind that these are rhetorical questions and I am not claiming to "speak for" anyone... um... hm... I may have inadvertently made another point.)