Are leftists the biggest hypocrites towards autistic issues?

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It depends on the leftist.

Most Autistics are mainly leftists because we are a minority group seeking acceptance from society. Leftists are accepting of minority group interests because we want the rich right wingers to pay for tax to support minority interests, equality, education and health. Right wingers are selfish, ignorant and they do not accept people who are different because the right wingers do not want to pay more tax.

But is it that Aspies want acceptance, or that they are (with a rigid moral sense and a black-and-white view of fairness) wanting a world that seems to be guided by social justice? I think it's the latter.

(Trigger warning: politics/morals/civil rights stuff that can upset some people or cause other people to get way too enthusiastic.)

For example, I'm antiabortion, not so I can get acceptance from right-wing Trumpers (gross!) but because I think that a human zygote is a person same as an embryo, a fetus, a baby, a senior citizen, a dried-up broomstick of a man with big glasses typing to his AS buddies on WP. So while I am painfully aware of the problems that Being Pregnant causes for people who aren't ready, for the trauma fo birthing a terminally ill child, I also know that if I am going to believe fetuses/zygotes/embryos/pick a stage are human, I have to commit.



Interesting points, Rainbow_Belle. I think they're rather oversimplified but you know what, it's about time somebody simplified politics a little. Hope you're having a great evening and if you want to chat in PMs about autism as a minority group, I would love to hear from you because I literally have NO IDEA how that works and always want to keep an open mind. Thanks.

I think there's overlap. We do face some stigma due to the label (even "positive stigma", like expecting us all to be rain man level math geniuses), while PoC and LGBT people may face some discrimination for their behavior (like how I mentioned the new emphasis the left places on cultural relativity.)

I guess I'm mainly going on observations I've made in American society. With most PoC or LGBT people, they may speak slightly different, use different mannerisms, have a different style of dress, celebrate different holidays or have different first languages. They may look different physically, or have slightly different interests. But the jokes they make, their nonverbal communication abilities, social intuition, general abilities to sit in loud places or take tests in a classroom, conversational skills and abilities to take and interpret situational cues are pretty much the same-- or very similar given my perspective as someone who's awful/has been awful at all of that.

So I still think PoC and LGBT people (while I'm not at all trying to say they have it easy or have had it easy in this society) are mainly discriminated against due to differences that, at least in terms of friendship and professional interactions, are superficial. The label itself is the thing that people make fun of them for, hence why they get called racial and sexual slurs. Again, not trying to say that it's easy for them, but that the means of their oppression is fundamentally different.

We are discriminated against for how we behave. Yes, I've had people around me use autistic as an insult, and had people call me a "ret*d" in school (although these people were not aware of my ASD) but the only people I've had suggest that I'm inferior due to my Autism are mental health professionals themselves...not outside society. Outside society does not like that I'm weird.

Oh, and I'm not saying that all leftists who think this way and obsess about autism labels and terminology are hypocrites exactly. They're just used to one model of privilege and oppression, which is one heavily focused on labels.

I think race, sexuality, and ASD as a discrete entity itself are all in a sense social constructs. The difference is that sexuality and race are social constructs that the public attaches great meaning to and identifies in other people for the sake of discriminating against them. I think for the most part, most of us face hardship on a regular basis without people KNOWING about our label. So obsession with the label does little with regards to how we're treated day to day.

I know that in some places in the USA the Chinese have organized as a voting block to have more political influence. Instead of just having their vote being taken for granted.

Yes. The leftist self proclaimed “progressives” are indeed hypocrites. They are only interested in groups that they can easily pander to, and capitalize on, because they are easily identifiable: women and/or racial minorities.

ASD/autistic people are too vague and varied in gender and ethnicity, and so are difficult to identify, and hard to use for identity politics. Not to mention they include a majority of Whites too, so it makes things hard for the left to capitalize on.

Even within racial minorities, some minorities are more useful for the left than others. Blacks are the most useful because of their history and continued racial oppression in America. But Asians are less useful to leftists because they tend to be more financially successful and mix in with Whites, despite also experiencing racial discrimination.

If your identity cannot be easily used to polarize the society, profit off of, and affirm the leftists’ agenda, then you are pretty much useless to leftist “progressives.”

Remember that Identity Politics is the reason SJWs get up in the morning.

That's pretty disturbing, cyberdad--about the right & eugenics. I for one would like to know more. Usually the American right at least is opposed to abortion, but now on the matter of infanticide they're for selecting the best specimens?

Doesn't surprise me. There were "better baby contests" in the 1920s in the USA usually at county fairs. Weird!

I guess I'm not particularly good at being right-wing then!

Bugger politics. I'm for civilization.