John_Browning wrote:
Inventor's plan is kind of like a model of the pros and cons of an autistic workplace. If you read the politics forum you will see that a commune would appeal to many of them. However, just like in the real world, there are any holes apparent in how you would keep everyone accommodated and occupied, and having a suitable set of skills for both productivity and to fill in personal living skills that some people will inevitably be lacking.
It may be easy for autistics to set up all the machinery and other equipment for productivity and facility maintenance, but people are not that simple and matters regarding living arrangements and social interaction will not work like a machine or computer and should not be led by people who have little to no understanding of other people. That will require someone with knowledge of morale building and conflict resolution. Maturity will probably be the biggest Achilles heel of the whole community and will require people that can handle them authoritatively in a mature manner to motivate them to keep up their agreed share of productivity. An NT psychologist might even be required for this task. This is why I think recruiting from ASD boarding schools is a really bad idea. You would be taking in a bunch of teenagers who have severe behavior problems and maturity issues, and even if they do not qualify for a guardian or someone with power of attorney over their financial or medical decisions, they will still need to live with someone to act as a parental figure for years!
In true autistic form, we have discussed what it would take to provide for someone's economic needs, but also in true autistic form, we haven't touched on how to address them as people with likes, dislikes, dreams, and feelings.
Very true, In my case I claim "Social Impairment." I have taken various tests over the years, True/False, marking all True, scores 50%. A,B,C.D, all A scores 25%.
I have to accept that on some subjects I score Zero.
For the general population, moral behavior took Religion, Law, and thousands of years, just to reduce the problems caused by the Morally Impaired. Just discovery was not enough, it took public posting, readings, and the hangman's rope to get the idea across.
Social Impairment was never such a problem, almost all humans have a natural talent at it.
There are a few exceptions who keep looking for the book on Social Interaction. In general, they are Moral, Legal, even without the books, laws, structures others need.
The Impaired do not seem to have an evil intent, just a lack of knowledge that comes naturally to others.
While it is beyond my perceptual limits, I would think it could be reduced to a system, Codified, which would be understandable.
Much that I did not know I learned, I could learn the rules of grammer of Classical Chinese. In my travels I have gotten by, faked it in other culture and language groups.
While I am the least prepared to take on this work, I think it would provide value to not only the small impaired population, but being something natural that everyone takes for granted, it has never been studied.
From an outsiders view, I see human social behavior as being a random recycling of packets of data. I cannot make out the pattern, but I also see the same in the general population to some degree.
All systems have an inturnel order, patterns, rules, exceptions to rules, which can be defined.
I would have little problem designing a water/sewer system, or an economy, property rights, that would run for a long period.
I do ask questions, and when it comes to social interaction, I keep getting told it is just natural.
Someone else should have talents in this direction, and could define it to the extent that we who were not born understanding the Rules of Latin Grammer, can learn enough to get by.
"The unexamined life is not worth living." It seems that the dominate form of interaction has never been examined?
03 Sep 2011, 9:07 pm
Oh wait, they'd insist you ban all private guns and send in poorly trained overseas thugs in blue helmets who have already committed human rights violations to come "provide security" for you!
