Time to get real
I don't like snow, I spent three months on an "outdoor" winter warfare course in Norway when I was 18 and a month "living off the land" in an Afghan winter more recently and after that, I will be happy if I never see snow again.
Snow does equal a glaring white muffled prison!
However, a case of 12 YO Bushmills (single malt) or Jameson's (Not a bad blend) would no doubt give me the fortitude to endure it!
I think I spent about three months wondering if the rest of the world was still out there last year!! !
Love those two, Glennfiddich and Glenmorangie are nice too though...different, Scottish... YUM YUM....
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Should you have solutions to the overwhelming odds that differ then my own I'm open to it.
I guess I don't want to be merely included in society, there is really nothing I like about this society or this economy for that matter...I think we need to start from scratch...kind of hard to do with this system and society still in place though. Also surviving in this sick society has got nothing to do with the natural process of survival of the fittest...all that cares about is pro-creation not how far to the top you make it in this society/economy. and I have no idea how to behave like a buisness I am an individual for one...and I see no point.
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Those programs that demonstrate positive net cash flows to the Government eg Welfare savings or an expansion of the tax base will be deemed viable.
Those that do not deliver positive cash flows will be axed.
Therefore, in the near future, It will be vitally important to have one's ducks in a row and be able to demonstrate clearly and quantifiably that programs are cash positive to stand any chance of getting a green light.
Therefore, smart organisations and individuals are well advised to get rid of the "dead wood", be it ideology, programs and ,as much as I hate to say it, individuals as soon as possible.
To quote Billy Bragg, "The third world is just around the corner".
Right then and what do we do with these dead wood individuals........send them to a concentration camp, you can't just get rid of people because you veiw them as dead wood that is not how it works.
Its not really that different in adult life I am now 22 and adult life is not all that different......I have let go of a lot of the past, but it is still a threatening thought that there were people who probably figured it would be easier on everyone if I had suceeded at suicide. No one came out and said it but its not like it was not obvious.
No matter how hard a person tries to avoid looking there is far too big a part of human nature that DOES work like that.
They do not usually think of it as driving someone to suicide *AS SUCH* more of making the anomally "go away".
Thank heavens it is not in your own nature to do that. I know I do.
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Its not really that different in adult life I am now 22 and adult life is not all that different......I have let go of a lot of the past, but it is still a threatening thought that there were people who probably figured it would be easier on everyone if I had suceeded at suicide. No one came out and said it but its not like it was not obvious.
No matter how hard a person tries to avoid looking there is far too big a part of human nature that DOES work like that.
They do not usually think of it as driving someone to suicide *AS SUCH* more of making the anomally "go away".
Thank heavens it is not in your own nature to do that. I know I do.
Sometimes I wish it was in my nature.....I would feel better about things, because I would be one of many people who do that rather than the one it is directed at. But of course they don't think to themselves 'oh if we are all as*holes to that person they will kill themself or conform.' some might but many just do it because everyone else does it without really thinking about it. But after that I just really have no desire to be a part of society if that is what it means.
Sometimes I wish it was in my nature.....I would feel better about things, because I would be one of many people who do that rather than the one it is directed at. But of course they don't think to themselves 'oh if we are all as*holes to that person they will kill themself or conform.' some might but many just do it because everyone else does it without really thinking about it. But after that I just really have no desire to be a part of society if that is what it means.
Not to mention not actually being comfortable (to say the least) with thinking like that.
I don't know who said we should be altruistic, which, by the definition I use, means putting the welfare of others ahead of your own. I believe we should seek to meet our needs while also helping others to meet their needs.
In my experience, a person can give a lot more to others once their own needs are met.
I think that is a totally excellent post.
Thank you

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Those programs that demonstrate positive net cash flows to the Government eg Welfare savings or an expansion of the tax base will be deemed viable.
Those that do not deliver positive cash flows will be axed.
Therefore, in the near future, It will be vitally important to have one's ducks in a row and be able to demonstrate clearly and quantifiably that programs are cash positive to stand any chance of getting a green light.
Therefore, smart organisations and individuals are well advised to get rid of the "dead wood", be it ideology, programs and ,as much as I hate to say it, individuals as soon as possible.
To quote Billy Bragg, "The third world is just around the corner".
Right then and what do we do with these dead wood individuals........send them to a concentration camp, you can't just get rid of people because you veiw them as dead wood that is not how it works.
Thanks for your comment and the chance to elaborate on my previous observations! I can see that, taken out of context, my words might give offence; however that is not my intention. My core values and creed is that I will do anything to help somebody that I consider a mate (Australian interpretation of word), family, kindred spirit or somebody in need of my protection or friendship. That is a fundimental value of most Aussie blokes (and most good blokes world wide!)
My concern is that I will not be able extend the same framework of mateship to people who do not pull their weight despite the fact that they may be on the spectrum. I wish I was able to stand shoulder to shoulder with all but mates and family have to come first.
Do you see what I mean? I have worked (for the UN) in areas where "ethnic cleansing" has occured (Rwanda, Bosnia and Afghanistan) and still regard human life as the most precious commodity in the entire universe but current circumstances dictate that we must form mutual support groups and must give priority to people we respect and trust.
Do you understand what I mean? In order for Aspies to survive and prosper we must band together and look out for each other and pull our weight. Does this make sense?
I know you have had a a fairly hard life for someone so young but you must recognise the necessity to circle the wagons and look out for our own?
I am proud to say that I have stood up to concentration camp guards whilst unarmed Blue Beret or ICRC delegate, and would happily do so again!
However, please be assured that as an Aussie , an officer, a gentleman, and a million other things I identfy with; I would prefer to give my life than consign another human being to a concentration camp.
I am just seeking to clarify who my mates are.
PS I have drafted this with the guidance of a few Bundy and Cokes and reserve the right to edit when sobre

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Those programs that demonstrate positive net cash flows to the Government eg Welfare savings or an expansion of the tax base will be deemed viable.
Those that do not deliver positive cash flows will be axed.
Therefore, in the near future, It will be vitally important to have one's ducks in a row and be able to demonstrate clearly and quantifiably that programs are cash positive to stand any chance of getting a green light.
Therefore, smart organisations and individuals are well advised to get rid of the "dead wood", be it ideology, programs and ,as much as I hate to say it, individuals as soon as possible.
To quote Billy Bragg, "The third world is just around the corner".
Right then and what do we do with these dead wood individuals........send them to a concentration camp, you can't just get rid of people because you veiw them as dead wood that is not how it works.
Thanks for your comment and the chance to elaborate on my previous observations! I acn see that, taken out of context, my words might give offence; however that is not my intention. My core values and creed is that I will do anything to help somebody that I consider a mate (Australian interpretation of word), family, kindred spirit or somebody in need of my protection or friendship. That is a fundimental value of most Aussie blokes (and most good blokes world wide!)
My concern is that I will not be able extend the same framework of mateship to people who do not pull their weight despite the fact that they may be on the spectrum. I wish I was able to stand shoulder to shoulder with all but mates and family have to come first.
Do you see what I mean? I have worked (for the UN) in areas where "ethnic cleansing" has occured (Rwanda, Bosnia and Afghanistan) and still regard human life as the most precious commodity in the entire universe but current circumstances dictate that we must form mutual support groups and must give priority to people we respect and trust.
Do you understand what I mean? In order for Aspies to survive and prosper we must band together and look out for each other and pull our weight. Does this make sense?
I know you have had a a fairly hard life for someone so young but you must recognise the necessity to circle the wagons and look out for our own?
I am proud to say that I have stood up to concentration camp guards whilst unarmed, and would happily do so again!
Yes it makes sense, but there are people who cannot nessisarly pull their weight or whatever........so there has to be some idea of what to do with them. But yeah anyone tends to put those they care about or have some connection to first. I mean I would be more likely to risk my life to help someone I know(if it came to that.) than someone I've never even met. So yeah I get what you mean but those who have more severe problems and need more assistance or whatever have to have someone looking out for them I guess. Though extreme circumstances can interfere........that is a pretty sad fact of life.
Oh I get it now...you are like David Cameron...you think the likes of me, who can't even tolerate other people for long enough to earn a living (despite having tried everything to find a work around), who do not have supportive families, could not tolerate forced socialisation and are intrinsically unsuited to benefitting from all existing programmes should just "do the decent thing" and die quietly in a corner without upsetting anyone...
You are probably quite right...
But forgive me if I do not oblige you.
I hope Sweetleaf will not be able to fit that kind of compliance into her schedule either.
Those programs that demonstrate positive net cash flows to the Government eg Welfare savings or an expansion of the tax base will be deemed viable.
Those that do not deliver positive cash flows will be axed.
Therefore, in the near future, It will be vitally important to have one's ducks in a row and be able to demonstrate clearly and quantifiably that programs are cash positive to stand any chance of getting a green light.
Therefore, smart organisations and individuals are well advised to get rid of the "dead wood", be it ideology, programs and ,as much as I hate to say it, individuals as soon as possible.
To quote Billy Bragg, "The third world is just around the corner".
Right then and what do we do with these dead wood individuals........send them to a concentration camp, you can't just get rid of people because you veiw them as dead wood that is not how it works.
Thanks for your comment and the chance to elaborate on my previous observations! I acn see that, taken out of context, my words might give offence; however that is not my intention. My core values and creed is that I will do anything to help somebody that I consider a mate (Australian interpretation of word), family, kindred spirit or somebody in need of my protection or friendship. That is a fundimental value of most Aussie blokes (and most good blokes world wide!)
My concern is that I will not be able extend the same framework of mateship to people who do not pull their weight despite the fact that they may be on the spectrum. I wish I was able to stand shoulder to shoulder with all but mates and family have to come first.
Do you see what I mean? I have worked (for the UN) in areas where "ethnic cleansing" has occured (Rwanda, Bosnia and Afghanistan) and still regard human life as the most precious commodity in the entire universe but current circumstances dictate that we must form mutual support groups and must give priority to people we respect and trust.
Do you understand what I mean? In order for Aspies to survive and prosper we must band together and look out for each other and pull our weight. Does this make sense?
I know you have had a a fairly hard life for someone so young but you must recognise the necessity to circle the wagons and look out for our own?
I am proud to say that I have stood up to concentration camp guards whilst unarmed, and would happily do so again!
Yes it makes sense, but there are people who cannot nessisarly pull their weight or whatever........so there has to be some idea of what to do with them. But yeah anyone tends to put those they care about or have some connection to first. I mean I would be more likely to risk my life to help someone I know(if it came to that.) than someone I've never even met. So yeah I get what you mean but those who have more severe problems and need more assistance or whatever have to have someone looking out for them I guess. Though extreme circumstances can interfere........that is a pretty sad fact of life.
Can't pull their weight- one thing
Won't pull their weight- another
You are probably quite right...
But forgive me if I do not oblige you.
I hope Sweetleaf will not be able to fit that kind of compliance into her schedule either.

Hardly! I would want to find a viable solution that would allow an obviously smart woman to contribute to the greater good of us all!
Can't pull their weight- one thing
Won't pull their weight- another
So who makes that call?
Atos origin?
A polite, smiling young Doctor at a Polish railway station?
Other?
That *IS* the reality of the ideology you are expounding, when you take away the window dressing.
Can't pull their weight- one thing
Won't pull their weight- another
So who makes that call?
Atos origin?
A polite, smiling young Doctor at a Polish railway station?
Other?
That *IS* the reality of the ideology you are expounding, when you take away the window dressing.
Hardly?
Can't pull their weight- one thing
Won't pull their weight- another
So who makes that call?
Atos origin?
A polite, smiling young Doctor at a Polish railway station?
Other?
That *IS* the reality of the ideology you are expounding, when you take away the window dressing.
Hardly?
It even has a name, Social Darwinism...and however sincere you belief, it's not the best ideology to throw over a young woman who has already experienced society's capacity to expose the incompatible to the elements and tell themselves it was "all for the best", to the point of trauma.
Are you sure about that?...I mean it is not litterally like that, but it is not like the sort of behavior I saw there stopped existing after I graduated it is part of the real world as well.
This forum however reminds me of what I witnessed in high school. Not much part of it just an observer myself and attacked twice for minding my own businesses pacing and so on. No they tended not to like fart noises then which I learned. Schools even then some 10 years ago did not openly tolerate bullying and in fact all I had to do is tell one person and it went on official school record and the party approached.
Well when I was in school, it was pretty obvious to me that I was being bullied and picked on by most of the other students and no one was going to do anything about it......I feel like maybe their theory was I would either eventually conform to whatever it was they wanted or succeed at suicide...I attempted and failed there were various reasons though it was not just being treated like crap so those as*holes can't take all the credit. And the worst part is it seems like our society is built on that kind of thing......and it irritates me a bit.
I can see why you feel the way you do. Yet in adult life it is different. Sometimes we must learn to let go of the past because those same people are very different. Our own thoughts can hold us back and our own rejections experienced in the past are not of the current. There is a strong will in every person just needing to be tapped for a greater self potential.
Its not really that different in adult life I am now 22 and adult life is not all that different......I have let go of a lot of the past, but it is still a threatening thought that there were people who probably figured it would be easier on everyone if I had suceeded at suicide. No one came out and said it but its not like it was not obvious.
Yeah the difference is now I have a friend and some aquantinces......who are potential friends. But it does not make a lot of the past any less painful or anything.
If you hadn't have notice some people even on here would if they could drive someone to those kinds of thinking. Some just do not like people for who they are. Some people just feed off of harming others to feel better about themselves. It's how individuals personally value themselves in spite of those kinds of people existing even right in the now and still yet are strong in mind and just as equally deserving of living life. While I cannot solve depression for instance with my own mere words toward you the love of life can be much like a cup is half full or half empty. I've found that going after goals and finding success even in the small things excites me to keep me going to the point life is exciting because in my choices I make my life better and can really do what I envision to do and prove that to myself. If finding friends is important to you (it's not much to me) then you can find interest groups. I just find that however a persistent negative thinking about ones own ability to progress sets one up for failure. The view about society you have effects your own outlook I think.
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