If there was a designated country for Aspies

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And any type of Aspie only community..would multiply the issue of human stagnation..by multiple fold...

How would an Autistic community cause more stagnation than an NT community? Autistics are much less likely than NT to have a "lemming like" mentality. Much more likely to respect individuality.

Diversity..all human diversity is necessary for human beings to survive...

Oh wow. Then why did you 'cure' your autism?

It takes a full human village for FULL POTENTIAL AT survival..

It does take a village for our kids [and ourselves] to reach our Autistic best. How is the NT culture positivvely encouraging our kids?

Not a dam exclusive club...

Absolutely. No one should have to be a scapegoat, an omega, for this seriously messed up NT run society.

And Autistics.. the higher functioning kind..about 99% of folks from my experience online..are among the worst offenders at excluding folks who communicate or act a little differently than what they PERSONALLY THINK IS their OWN norm....

I truly do not know if it is intentional or not, but you often come across as pompous and you say things that hurt peoples feelings...alot. They are not being offenders as much as defenders of themselves and their values.

That ain't how the big picture of life..works...

but of course there are hundreds of pieces of peer reviewed research that backs up that sentiment...

IT WILL NEVER WORK..

Do you not know how arrogant you are coming across? And kind of mean? And WHY WHY WHY are you implying that you, a person who believes himself to be "cured" from this "disease," would have a clue what would be best for a portion of Autistics{ I NEVER said all Autistics] who feel that for them, being in a community of other supportive Autistics, would be the ideal way to be and encourage others to be their Autistic best?

CAUSE FOLKS HERE GENERALLY SPEAKING AND AT LEAST EVIDENCED ON THIS SITE...and other online autistic sites..

SIMPLY WILL NOT BEND AND COOPERATE WITH OTHERs WHO THEY VIEW AS A LITTLE TOO FAR OUT OF THEIR

PERSONAL SOCIAL NORM...EVEN WHEN IT comes to a friggin style of writing that is a little different than the norm...

When I come to WP, I feel accepted. I feel understood. And when I have asked for help, others have "cooperated" and given it.

And i have collected reams and reams of evidence for that..in my own research as a social scientist....

And, as an Autistic who is appalled at the high unemployment rate among Autistics, the rate[ 28 times higher] of attempted,planned, and successful suicide among our young people, I have plenty of documentation to MORE than strongly suggest that autistic people. in general,are not exactly thriving in this NT ruled world.

that provides enough evidence..i think...to present a compelling case for what i am saying here...

Yeah, me too. I can drag out more stats if you wish.

And all that autreat stuff is only for folks who carry the same ideology..been there done that..in scores of discussions...where if ya don't believe the way we do..see ya later..alligator....or WE WILL BAN YA..OR YOU ARE NOT WELCOME BACK or WHATEVER....

One, Autreat no longer exists. It did though,positively impact many peoples' lives for many years. Not all autistics would want to attend. We are all different people,and what is good for one person is not what is best for all. As far as you not feeling welcome, it was always made clear that this was an event for individuals who were looking to celebrate their "Autistic wonderfulness, not those who wanted to "cure it." Apart from that, there is no denying that there were some problems with Autreat. People who have been a part of Autreat, often feel that one person having final say in everything presented problems. Something is now being put together to replace Autreat by a group of Autistic individuals, something that will embrace the positive sides of it while addressing the problems.

SO CALLED NT'S ARE NECESSARY..iF I wanna be sane..in this REAL WORLD...REGARDLESS OF IF I CURE MY AUTISM LIKE I HAVE NOW...or in the day..where i regressed and a light bulb at night was like the sun at midday..

How were they nevessary [and Autistics not]

and a cricket sounded like a friggin freight train..and i could NOT talk at all.....at age 47....with severe regression like a 24 month old child....

That is one of my arguments in support of an autistic community. Autistics understand and would be more likely to address sensory issues.

Everyone here by the time they get my age..if they go into autistic burnout..better hope there's an NT somewhere to lend a hand..as this just ain't something most autistic folks could deal with..on a day to day basis...

I am older than you. i agree that autistic burnout is the pits and would probably be much less likely to occur in an autistic community.I had autistic burnout. big-time. I had a total breakdown, and it was triggerred by a group of horrendously cruel NTs'. And the good NTs'? Too scared of losing their social status to stand up and tell the truth. The Autistic community helped to ave my life.

http://katiemiaaghogday.blogspot.com/20 ... ctrum.html

like my so called NT wife did..when i needed caregiving...24/7.....back in those dead days...in 2008..for me...

I'm glad you are doing better.

And i DO MEAN 24/7 CARE...BEYOND WHAT ANY NURSING HOME SERVICES..COULD EVEN REASONABLY PROVIDE..JUST FOR ME TO MAKE IT TO THE next second....

I understand, except nursing home services are not great. Again, I am glad you are doing better. And that you have a supportive wife. So many Autistics have nobody during hard times.

Most Autistic folks need NT's more than autistic folks..whether they want to face the facts of life or not...

Speak for yourself, a person who caims to be 'cured" of being Autistic.

But that's just my opinion..per my personal experience..and technical research in life....

please ignore that Nuisance,and dont forget that most autistics are actually pissed of at the NT society who keep oppressing us, we , the high functioning indepanded autistics do not need NTs
and can thrive without NTs better.


(i do not talking about more severe autistics who cannot take care of themself, we can also help them much better than NTs could because we can understand them better and we respect neurodiversity)

How can one claim to respect neurodiversity when they have an us vs. them attitude about neurotypicals?

How can one claim to respect neurodiversity when they have an us vs. them attitude about neurotypicals?

How can one claim to respect neurodiversity when they have an us vs. them attitude about neurotypicals?

i sorry if you were offended,i just said that my life could be much better if only aspie indepanded state was existed,sorry if i had sounded to extreme and dramatic

You have lost a child. I pray every day that I will never truly know what that feels like. I don't see how much anything could be as painful. I am so sorry for your loss. I know you get alot of crap for how you defend Autism Speaks. I personally detest the organization. I cannot see how you could have anything but positive feelings for them,though, if representatives from the group had been there lending support during your most difficult times. I assume that is what happened with you.

You often do get super negative about ideas different from your own. I do not know if it is intentional or not,but, PARTICULARLY WHEN YOU SCREAM IN HERE you do come across as quite cruel,and,yeah,pompous.

I do believe that you are a person with so much to share with others who are hurting, and that you are a truly caring person,but that is SO not how you present. Also, there are many of us [myself included] who are PROUD autistics. And there are so many of us who are fighting for Autistics to receive the treatment and respect we deserve.

Last month,we had a little retreat for autistics in Colorado. There was a lot of fun. There were friendships started. We did not stay on schedule as well as we should have [which did lessen the experience for some] and there were 2 presentations [one of them mine] that were never presented. Now, I wish that those things had not happened, and now that we have a planning committee, hopefully next year they won't.

But, we were definitely succesful in the 2 areas I felt most important. One,because the majority of Autistics have low self-esteem,[ a lifetime of being bullied and being treated'less than" will do it] i was determined that every attendee felt cherished and loved. We were 100% succesful there. Our second priority was to give hope and tools to work on changing lives for Autistics. We were succesful in that area as well. You see,most of us have been taught our entire lives why we can't accomplish this or that. We need support on how we can. And, while still respecting our disabilities and personal limitations, we, as a group, CAN accomplish so much. I believe that we can not only improve the lives of our autistic brothers and sisters, but improve the lives of many NTs' as well.[ long term]

Please, constructive,postitive [ while remaining humble] ideas for what we CAN do, on yourpart would be appreciated.

Sometimes I get so confused while I write, and I know my grammar can be atrocious. I receive almost no criticism for either of those weaknesses, so,I really do not think that for people who have a problem with you, it is because of your writing style.

I do believe there is love in your heart. Perhaps you need to find a different way to make it shine?

Respecting diversity, including the NT culture, does not by any means translate to not being pissed at the horrific atrocities that have been committed, and are still being committed against the vast majority of Autistics. Nor does it mean simply shrugging our shoulders at what is happening rather than acknowledging the truth and ACTIVELY seeking solutions, just to prove that we do not discriminate against NTs'. We need to ensure that our young people and future generations of Autistics have what they need to enable them to be their most successful Autistic best. Us versus them? I am not going to fear stepping on politicaly correct eggshells , not when our suicide rate is 28 times higher than theirs, our employment rates are so low, and MOST Autistics are saying that they do not wish to procreate because they do not believe they have potential to be incredible parents, or, worse yet, they might produce a child wired similarly to themselves.

A phyle? That's been suggested many times before. The question is, how do we go about starting it? What sort of businesses could it own and run? Anything that could be done online, where Autists have an advantage?

I say we call it Genosha.

Seriously, though.
I'm a tech & web developer, there are a lot of coders among us, a lot of artists, and a lot of writers & media folks.

We could start our own online entertainment collective, make apps & games to make it interactive, have cinematic and theatrical elements., etc.
Once established as an income base we could start investing in more conventional things like science & engineering 'cause we 've got a lot of those too.
It could expand from there.
It's an idea, a doable one with enough people & backing.