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24 Aug 2009, 4:37 pm

thedaywalker wrote:
i'm diagnosed with asperger and i dont believe its real its just some other stupide made up word for diffrent. its more something to label people with then it is a disorder its just diffrent people all people act diffrent we dont have names for people that cant cook why do we have names for people that are less social.



You obviously don't understand your own condition. AS isn't just being less social, people with AS have difficulty with changes in routine or reading non verbal cues and body language and it's harder to read between the lines and pick up on sarcasm and understand jokes. People with AS tend to say inappropriate things because they don't understand it be inappropriate and people with AS have difficulty in theory of mind and might have troubles understanding how someone is feeling or putting themselves in a situation they have never been in to understand how someone is feeling or how someone would feel. They also may have troubles predicting how someone is going to feel if they say X to them. There is a lot more to AS than what I mentioned here because there is the sensory issues, the balance problems, poor gross motor skills. Can you relate to all that or some of it or lot of it? If so, then you do have it, if not, then maybe you were misdiagnosed.

Yes everyone is different but saying AS is made up is like saying mental retardation is made up or diabetes or learning disabilities, or cerebral palsy, bla bla bla. Hey they are all different also so those conditions must be made up right?

So if you think AS isn't real, then why the heck are you here?



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24 Aug 2009, 4:57 pm

The point may be that neurodiversity is a big fuzzy continuum that grades into lots of different diagnostic categories and 'impairments' and that our functionality is plastic, so we can shift in and out of categories.

What's exciting to me is that simple differences in brain wiring produce some pretty consistent and widespread characteristics, instead of each thing having a separate cause.


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25 Aug 2009, 12:19 pm

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There will always be doubters in this world. Some doubts are more dangerous, putting others at risk for health, financial and educational problems. No wonder mental health issues and even substance abuse was swept under the carpet. "Just get over it. Your problems get in the way."

We are not all created the same. AS is not an excuse for anything. it is a human brain difference, and for some it is more of a difficult issue with which to cope, as Spokane_Girl has written.

Many deniers have also been told that what they believed was ridiculous, and not wishing to rock the boat or risk being thrown overboard, went along with the crowd. How very NT.


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25 Aug 2009, 5:20 pm

Personally, I knew I was different from others as far back as my childhood.During my childhood, I had to dealt with a great amount of bullying whether, it was due in acting strange unto others or having an awkward physical form, that caused me to be physically tormented and all.Still, for all of the people out there whom feel Aspergers & Autism too are psychosomatic--Well, they're not for both and all other autistic spectrum disorders are quite real and have profound effects in the lives of those whom have such an innate trait and all.. Honestly, I try my best to help others to understand but, there have been times where I've been somewhat cynical and often appear to be un-kind though, it's not with a malignant heart just, dealing with people whom sometimes must still live in the 1600's is not my idea of fun to put it simply..Well, I wish all a great amount of hope and thoughtfulness in all of your interactions with people overall..



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25 Aug 2009, 6:03 pm

Some people just don't want to face the truth of things. Alot of people don't belive in doctors which is why they don't believe in AS.



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26 Aug 2009, 10:26 am

I think the word that trips people up isn't "Asperger's" but "disease," "disorder," or "syndrome" (or whatever word you choose to append to it). When you say you have a "disorder," "disease," or "syndrome," people expect you to be conspicuously crippled or disabled. This is generally not the case in mature aspies who have learned how to successfully imitate or simulate NT behavior. It may be made more difficult if the person is aware of your gifts, which may surpass his, resulting in a false conflict between the notions of "giftedness" and "syndrome," notions the Other may consider mutually incompatible.



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27 Aug 2009, 11:37 am

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Some people didn't "believe" it when I had Lyme disease, either.

Some people are honestly like, "It never happened to ME or anyone I KNOW; so it can't be happening to you, either!"

Even lots of doctors. It's maddening.


Mu uncle has the same problem with Meriners. Even now that he's on full disability from it family, my aunts friends, and ex-coworkers are constantly saying they think he's faking or that it can't possibly be that bad. This is the main reason I won't tell any co-workers or really anyone other than those that live with me that I have AS. My boss knows, but she's really understanding about that sort of thing and if I'm close to a meltdown lets me use some of my leave to go home for the night. Most my co-workers think that I'm going home for my kid or something similar.



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27 Aug 2009, 7:12 pm

When someone says they don't believe in AS or any other condition you have, just tell them you're trying really hard not to believe in their stupidity, but they're making it very difficult for you, and to please stop.



27 Aug 2009, 8:03 pm

Ralou wrote:
When someone says they don't believe in AS or any other condition you have, just tell them you're trying really hard not to believe in their stupidity, but they're making it very difficult for you, and to please stop.



:lmao: Maybe I will try that one next time.



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03 Sep 2009, 8:45 pm

I've had bad experiences with this, not even gonna go into it, but people like that don't deserve the right to so much as an opinion really, if they're not intelligent enough to be responsible with them.


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04 Sep 2009, 10:13 am

neuro typicals have an amazing capacity for self deception


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04 Sep 2009, 10:34 am

dalekaspie wrote:
neuro typicals have an amazing capacity for self deception


By that logic, one could say that those on the spectrum have the same ability; to believe that all people are the same is as faulty as complete skepticism towards something that one has no experience with.


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20 Jan 2010, 11:16 pm

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Has anyone else ever run into people, or heard of people, who just "don't believe in" Aspergers?


Yup. Same caliber of person that doesn't believe in genetic weight gain, that gay's a choice, that if schizophrenia is a matter of willpower, etc etc.



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28 Jan 2010, 11:30 am

aspergers is just one paticular set of charictaristics. everyone has charictaristics, its just that one set is labled "aspergers". so to be perfectly honest, i was diagnosed with AS, but i myself dont believe in it.



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29 Jan 2010, 12:49 pm

I have never really run into anyone like that. Although that may have something to do with my social strategy. I spend every second of my life being who I am. If someone doesn't like it, I still act like who I am until they go away. Once they go away I still do the same thing. It's useful to alienate all the ignorant morons who think I have to act a certain way around them. I have too much integrity for that.

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When I found this I wasn't diagnosed and found that this described me perfectly. If people don't want to believe, damn them. They don't have to believe. I just wish they wouldn't assert their ignorance to the rest of the world. The funny thing about this is that they need us and we don't need them. They just make us dependent on them because they can't accept us for who we are. I have never once met a non-conforming Neuro-typical. Even the non-conformers among them conform to a sub category. They just can't handle difference. And the ones that can really can't because they are only conforming to the dominant thought of the world.
So don't blame Neuro-typicals for their ignorance: it's genetic.


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