Should eradicating autism be a hate crime?

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I have to say, that one of the ways you incense people is in your insistence that:

You dismiss all the evidence that by doing this you would be placing all other people's children at risk.

Going by your understanding of the word "discussion" exhibited here, I would suggest that:
might be more accurately worded:

Actually, he was the one who brought up the point with me when we were talking about children. We're from different countries so have a lot to consider about our future and how and where to raise kids, which is one of the reasons we don't have any yet. There are different laws in our countries, so it was something he wanted to consider in making our decision.

And again, if your kids are vaccinated they won't get any of these dreaded archaic diseases anyway, so you can all relax. I'm not putting anyone at risk.

You do not understand how vaccination works. Being vaccinated does not stop you geting the disease - it only makes it less likely. If a large percentage are vaccinated, a disease will be easily contained. As the percentage vaccinated drops, an outbreak can spread faster. This is where the word "epidemic" comes in.

You do place others at risk, by increasing the proportion of people who wish to selfishly opt out.

You are stating that you wish to operate in a non-altruistic, or even anti-altruistic, way.

Vaccinate or don't vaccinate it doesn't matter all that much I haven't had all the vaccinations people seem to get theses days actually i only got 3 out of 27. which is because I had a bad reaction to those first three and my parents didn't give me any more and didn't give my sis any Heres the thing if a kid has a bad reaction don't give them anymore also give them to them one at a time. vaccines definitely don't cause autism they may exacerbate it but if they caused it then why are there so many vaccinated children without it?

Personally I would hope that instead of focusing on curing people on the spectrum research and efforts could focus on making life better for those people such that they may contribute to society with the gifts their disorder provides them with.

And... where on earth do you get this "dreaded archaic diseases" concept from? These diseases have not gone away. They are in no sense "archaic". They break out in small epidemics today. Throw out vaccination and they will return to their pandemic proportions.

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I have known many people who chose not to vaccinate their children in years past, but not to prevent autism. They were concerned that the prevention was worse than the disease. At the time of this, polio was almost unheard of and small pox supposedly had been eradicated. They homeschooled their children and lived on isolated communes and so assumed the diseases would not reach their children. I could only shake my head and be glad all my children were vaccinated. I was concerned about what might happen but I was told that these parents had a right to choose the care they wanted for their children, much the same as Jehovah's Witnesses choose not to avail themselves of whole blood transfusions, even to save their lives, and may be forced to only by legal means.

It does. See above.

Vaccination does not have to be 100%, so it is fine if the small percentage of people at greater risk of side effects are not vaccinated. If you have bad reactions to them, missing you out isn't a problem.

As I said, vaccination itself does not guarantee you will not get the disease. If you are exposed, you may still get it. It's all probabilities.

• If no one is vaccinated, a carrier will infect every person they come into contact with, then those infect every other person, and so on. The spread is exponential. Pandemic.
  
• If half are vaccinated, only about half the people a carrier comes into contact with will be infected, and so on. The spread is slower, but still exponential. Definite epidemic.
  
• If the majority are vaccinated, most people a carrier comes into contact with are not infected. Only a few (if any) carry the infection elsewhere. The spread is slow and can be caught before it gets out of hand. A small epidemic, or maybe just a handful of infections all told, before the process is halted.

So tell me again, what's the point in injecting vials of toxic gunk into your child if it won't do the job it's designed to do?

Vaccines DO what they're designed to do.

No, they're designed to protect against whatever disease in particular they're for. If they don't do that, then what's the point? It isn't logical.

You can't "cure" Autism for the simple fact that you can't go back into the womb and rewire the brain. Any attempts at "curing" someone with Autism is an exercise in futility. Learning to Compensate by working around your shortcomings and focusing on your abilities on the other hand is a completely different matter.

The answer to "hate speech" is more speech. In response to that "Autism Everyday Video" perhaps we should make a video called "Asperger's Speaks"

Or "Autism Speaks' doesn't speak for me"

They do hold back the disease. Without them, your probability of being killed by the disease is high. With them, your probability of being killed by the disease is low. Your probability of being affected by the vaccine is always low. The logic is fine. Your understanding is lacking. I suggest you read something about probability and/or statistics. You could just take some notice of people who do understand such things. Instead, you make baseless statements like the above.

This IS what I study.

Until a vaccine is developed that

A) Is 100% guaranteed effective
B ) Is 100% guaranteed NOT to cause any harm in any way
C) Does not contain any toxic ingredients
D) Does not benefit the big pharmaceutical companies over the consumer's health

I won't vaccinate.


Again, the theory of vaccination is fine. It's the way in which it's carried out and what's ended up in them that I have the problem with.

All four are taken care of.

Vaccinate.

Ha, I'd love to know where you get your jabs from, because as far as I'm aware there aren't any in existence that tick those boxes. Perhaps truly another planet?