How to change the "victim" mind set?

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Nathan

I think you should spend time drafting a manifesto succinctly in terms that we can all understand.

We can then engage in meaningful debate.

At the moment, I can't understand you and I suspect that you are trying to bluff us or blind us with science.

You understand what I'm talking about you just don't like it. I was forewarned about the I don't understand games.

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I believe autism should be perceived as individual symptoms warranting different treatment with potentials cures for each. Such as non-inclusion manifesting as isolation being a symptom of social disability and perhaps hyper-focusing. This can be treated and potentially cured with hybrid community inclusion programs. I myself was isolated for many years and not to my exact choice. Though I am dependent upon the system I perceive inclusion programs certainly part of the treatment modality and I think psychological professionals would agree. However the construct of such programs like I am working on where I live need a great deal more inclusion potential and that is done with public relations and social service inclusion models.

My focus strictly is on adaptive inclusion and autism and related developmental disability integration awareness public relations. That is as close to cure "stuff" as I am. Cure simply is not my kind of "stuff" I focus on nor would I imagine my using the word on radio, news and so on.

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No i can not understand what the hell you are on about 90% of time, therefore can neither agree or disagree.

Ask questions then instead of making it out to being a problem with me. I am very patient.

That's what I said, do a one page manifesto entitled "the beliefs of ci""

Use dot points and short words, then we might have an idea what you are on about!

Your not trying to be constructive. Your just reversing a comment I made of another individual to have him understand the seriousness of cyber-crime threats against Neurotypicals. I said it was a short version of a manifesto.

Conversation with you is not desired to be productive I see.

Nathan ,with the greatest respect to you as a fellow AS I think all this boils down to one word. "Cure."

I don't trust cure because of what I've seen and researched. I don't trust cure because I don't trust people who market cure, solution, or that oil that turns your twenty year old car into a perpetual motion machine.



What would be a more appropriate phrase would be "a developing integrated flexible system of management that can be tailored to an individuals unique set of needs ". It will work for some to the extent they can have a more functional life in terms of NT environment. It will not work for everyone.

It's not a cure.

Honestly this is so Aspie - either cured or not cured , black white , one zero, zebra not a zebra
etc.

Watch the NT's who are flogging you this cure closely and ask why you are taking the flack and not the company guys you are working with, but they are making bucks out of it. Let them stand in the firing line and you develop the models .


I still have to write on my hand to remind myself , NT's are more interested in status wealth and power than performing a task brilliantly or the outcome of a project.

Instead of getting at you other, radical AS should be helping you deal with these guys. Like deal with them, zap , slap leave our guy alone and let him get on with his job. Instead the NT business- political group clustered around your project are playing you off against more radical AS and getting two bangs for their buck.

"Zap, slap, back off ." They understand this.

Meme.

Yes it is a problem with the word cure. I have no emotional rebellion against the word yet do not use the word myself in official advocacy. To much conflict over a simple concept. With regards to the whole A.S vs. N.T universe I am an observer. I tend to do things my way and those ways really tend to be original. I don't really partake in the us vs. them mentality.

Nathan

Nathan- there's a much bigger threat than cyber-crime. Tell them we now have the means to construct a cognitive weapon the size of a Death Star and if they don't play ball we'll deploy it.

They love stories like that .

Hey, I'm only joking here right , aren't I?

It's a metaphor.

Yes. Joking.

Then tell them the joke and watch them smile. That smile will be 90% having NT fun at the expense of our naive innocence and tendency to use of SF analogies to conceptualize complex social and psychological theories ( creates a nice warm in group feeling of professionals not with AS ) and 10% wondering if there's anything in it. That's 10% more leverage you've got in dealing with them, for free.

Keep them on their toes because they'll always looking for ways to pass more onto you and less on to them.

For what it's worth I think your heart's in the right place. I object to you being used as a human shield for the flack they should be taking.

Mental compartmentalization at it's best. You and ahogday need to debate. My attention span to multiple topics in one post is quite limited. I stay on one topic the best.