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21 Sep 2011, 6:01 pm

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I am hard at work lobbying to have the "TMS Spammer" label removed from Robison AFF profile. I can not speak for AFF, but I am certain there are members on their who would value his insight.




Not as many as you think TamMan

Some of us do not appreciate you using the front page to "showcase" your writing talent / or lack of.
We will be suggesting to the site owner, that you be limted to one article at a time. replacing a preceding article with your latest.

None of the other news articles can be seen without scrolling a mile and a half.

I do feel it is a shame that I am muzzled from expressing my views on what you are doing. I am not asking to get my way on anything at all. But at the very least should be allowed to speak my mind.

In case you havent noticed my lack of responces to your post............ I cant. And that is a shame. It is what it is though.

That was not a 'real' interview.

A real interview would be sitting face to face or web cam to web cam. That way there could be no 'canned' or pre-prepared responces.

And the pace of or content of the questions can be revised as you look into their eyes.

That of course, like everything else in this post is only my opinion



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21 Sep 2011, 7:02 pm

I worked extremely hard to make this interview happen. I collected questions from members, sent dozens of emails, tracked people down, etc... It took countless hours to put this together.

If I showcase my talent while contributed to a website and a cause I believe in... so what? Should my efforts mean nothing?

I already suggested seperating the news, my features and the featured member series under three seperate links in a simple and discreet column.

There is no need to attack me here sky.



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21 Sep 2011, 7:06 pm

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I worked extremely hard to make this interview happen. I collected questions from members, sent dozens of emails, tracked people down, etc... It took countless hours to put this together.

If I showcase my talent while contributed to a website and a cause I believe in... so what? Should my efforts mean nothing?

I already suggested seperating the news, my features and the featured member series under three seperate links in a simple and discreet column.

There is no need to attack me here sky.
No attack going on. you may be paranoid

here I expressed my views


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21 Sep 2011, 7:28 pm

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Indeed, this coming from the woman who said she was leaving the forum four times and said she just needed to respond 'to this last message' twice. I don't think you're in a position to start calling other people liars.

Please conduct your feud with Zeraeph, if you must at all, through PMs.

Your post was utterly off topic and a distraction.

I also think that it was uncalled for.

I have affection and some agreement with both of you, and it makes me sick to read this stuff. I very much want her to stay, and I want you to simply stop talking to her if that is the best that you can do.

If you have issues with my having said so, please reply by PM.


Can I just interrupt this thread for a moment to thank you for teaching gentlemanly behavior by example?

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I couldn't agree more.



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21 Sep 2011, 7:31 pm

Paranoia would be accusing me of being a spy and stating that AFF has been infiltrated by the enemy.



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21 Sep 2011, 7:50 pm

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Many individuals will be viewing the thread over at AFF and Autism Speaks is viewing this one as we speak.

Be polite and constructive and maybe you guys can make a difference!

This is a chance for our voices to be heard! Don't stop now!


I don't agree with you John...in fact I am convinced beyond doubt that we could all chain ourselves naked to the SQL database without having the slightest effect on Autism Speaks, now or ever. They couldn't care less what we want or need, because it has nothing to do with their corporate agenda.

(The only thing I want autism speaks to see is that some of us are far too intelligent and informed to be fooled for a minute, and, if only to avoid causing unintentioned offence, they need to try a lot harder to pull the wool over next time...)

But I guess you have to spend the next 25 years learning this stuff for yourself, and, what is more, you have an INALIENABLE RIGHT to spend the next 25 years learning this stuff for yourself...

Which is why I do not think this is very fair...

skyblue1 wrote:
Tambourine-Man wrote:
I am hard at work lobbying to have the "TMS Spammer" label removed from Robison AFF profile. I can not speak for AFF, but I am certain there are members on their who would value his insight.




Not as many as you think TamMan

Some of us do not appreciate you using the front page to "showcase" your writing talent / or lack of.
We will be suggesting to the site owner, that you be limted to one article at a time. replacing a preceding article with your latest.

None of the other news articles can be seen without scrolling a mile and a half.

I do feel it is a shame that I am muzzled from expressing my views on what you are doing. I am not asking to get my way on anything at all. But at the very least should be allowed to speak my mind.

In case you havent noticed my lack of responces to your post............ I cant. And that is a shame. It is what it is though.

That was not a 'real' interview.

A real interview would be sitting face to face or web cam to web cam. That way there could be no 'canned' or pre-prepared responces.

And the pace of or content of the questions can be revised as you look into their eyes.

That of course, like everything else in this post is only my opinion


I mean, ok, I really *DO* have a soft spot for cute guys - the technical term is "being human", but to paraphrase Arthur Miller, whatever else you think of him, they guy is geniunely one of the most talented young writers I have seen for a very long time, (and that would still be true if all he were writing was xenophobic propaganda), it is only yourself you make little of by claiming otherwise.

It is equal truth that without a ruthless streak and a healthy dollop of something akin to egomania, that talent will sink without a trace, which would be one heck of a waste.

He is only young, he hasn't had time to learn how to know everything yet, and yes, he does get a bit arrogant and pushing in his naivete...but it doesn't look very intentional to me and I can usually pick up on a head game in the next galaxy...

Every guy gets the idea he has a shot at being a messiah at least once in his 20s...and gets a bit carried away with it...

Personally I believe he thought he was going to do something innovative and it backfired a bit...



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21 Sep 2011, 7:58 pm

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Paranoia would be accusing me of being a spy and stating that AFF has been infiltrated by the enemy.



hmmmm, kinda looks like you are the one on the attack

come on over to intensity squared if you like to attack

they have a appreciation of that kind of thing

even though I dont post here often, I follow the rules and dont attack folks

that is only common sense

I felt good that I was able to let you know that, that was not a real interview

and am thankful for the oppurtunity


As far as aff goes . I step up in the finest tradition of the forum and challenge people, who I think are, trolls, spammers, attention whores, or AutSpks lovers. You were two out of the four.

I willingly backed off, when it was suggested I should.

I follow boundaries and limits very well, when I am not at my own place. On forums and IRL.

As far as my non-profit, I already have one that is doing service in my community ( our board is never paid, all volunteer)

AS for We.Speak. It was pointed out by my attorney, that is one I cannot do on my own.



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21 Sep 2011, 8:00 pm

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I mean, ok, I really *DO* have a soft spot for cute guys

Me too!

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21 Sep 2011, 8:03 pm

AlanTuring wrote:
Zeraeph wrote:
I mean, ok, I really *DO* have a soft spot for cute guys

Me too!

:thumright:


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21 Sep 2011, 8:08 pm

I noticed on the AFF site, that quite a few individuals have expressed a view of Autism Speaks response as a sincere one, although there is expected, quite a bit of criticism as well, for those that do not trust the organization. The key though is people are discussing the issue, with input from Autism Speaks. This is the first time I have seen it on a website between Autism Speaks and the autistic community so it really is a groundbreaking effort.

I see the personal attacks on you, on the other site, as transparent, indicative of fear of change. You have presented questions others wanted to be presented, stated you were maintaining a neutral position and have maintained that throughout the process.

It seems the fact that Autism Speaks clarified longstanding issues of conflict, has upset some; there no longer will be those points to argue as long as Autism Speaks adheres to their word as presented in the record. There isn't much left of substance to argue about on the issues that have been clarified, now that this article as been published.



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21 Sep 2011, 8:21 pm

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come on over to intensity squared.


Do you seriously think there will be enough of him left to go around when AFF have finished with him?

C'mon, cut the lad some personal slack, he got carried away on an ill-conceived crusade...he didn't initiate a week of ethnic cleansing...

Whomsoever never threw themselves wholeheartedly into anything misguided, let *HIM* (and him alone) cast the first stone for heaven's sake.

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21 Sep 2011, 8:31 pm

aghogday - Your most recent post is just plain wrong.


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21 Sep 2011, 8:50 pm

Zeraeph wrote:
skyblue1 wrote:

come on over to intensity squared.


Do you seriously think there will be enough of him left to go around when AFF have finished with him?

C'mon, cut the lad some personal slack, he got carried away on an ill-conceived crusade...he didn't initiate a week of ethnic cleansing...

Whomsoever never threw themselves wholeheartedly into anything misguided, let *HIM* (and him alone) cast the first stone for heaven's sake.

:roll:
yes, I got a chance to post to him here. I was thankful, I got a chance to say my piece. Wouldnt have known he was here had someone not posted a link to his profile where he was claiming the AFF website as his website.

folks at AFF for the most part are treating him well


I cant support his actions. As ex-military, I know you do not give 'aid and comfort' to your enemy by treating with them. No matter what anyone says, AutSpks should have come to us with hat in hand, offering apology right off the bat. They should have not been sought after, by a newly DX`ed Aspie , still wet behind the ears, uneducated on Autism or the politics of Autism. How naive.

I appreciate being allowed to speak here on the subject.


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21 Sep 2011, 8:52 pm

For some reason, nobody wants to answer the vitally important question that has been asked on AFF:

What would Autism Speaks have to do to be forgiven?

So let me give Autism Speaks *MY* personal answer.

In order to be forgiven by me, Autism Speaks would have to dissolve the company and donate all residual monies (including any pension fund or similar, I am wise to that caper too) to a charitable foundation to be used solely for any autistic person without other family or community resources in need of crisis funding.

Non negotiable I am afraid.



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21 Sep 2011, 8:54 pm

Paranoia would be accusing me of being a spy and stating that AFF has been infiltrated by the enemy.



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21 Sep 2011, 9:02 pm

Zeraeph wrote:
For some reason, nobody wants to answer the vitally important question that has been asked on AFF:

What would Autism Speaks have to do to be forgiven?

So let me give Autism Speaks *MY* personal answer.

In order to be forgiven by me, Autism Speaks would have to dissolve the company and donate all residual monies (including any pension fund or similar, I am wise to that caper too) to a charitable foundation to be used solely for any autistic person without other family or community resources in need of crisis funding.

Non negotiable I am afraid.

I absolutely agree.

There is no 'fixing' Autism Speaks. I would never forgive it or forget what they have said and done.

It needs to be shut down and we should move in different directions through much better organizations.


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