Asperger syndrome and Libertarianism idea

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You really don't understand libertarianism.

Schools are run by states. Most states spend a decent amount of their budget on public education. States would still provide for public education, but there would be no expense federal DEA running things.

And no, they would not be able to just start curing fetuses, that's authoritarianism. Libertarianism protects the rights of the individual. The state could not force you to cure your child or yourself, and especially not force a cure against someone's will.

When I was a sophomore in high school, I definitely courted the idea of Libertarianism, and again when a senior. I also saw someone on here that identified as a "socialist." Not only do I think aspies tend to identify with individual libertarianism, but they also like the idea of "everything in its right place." This can go many different ways due to personal preference. In general I always thought I was more conservative and capitalistic. Since the election has heated up, I've started to realize that maybe I'm a more centrist figure and am passionate about independent and third-way politics. I contacted the local chapter leader of this Distributism institute. It's at a Catholic Church!

I tend to apply realism to politics very much. Therefore I can't identify as a doctrinaire capitalist, libertarian, socialist, etc.

I believe that the federal government is too big, but I don't trust that a completely individualistic society would hold up for very long. The federal government should be abolished and the state governments should take over. I don't trust the state governments very much either, but at least none of the corrupt politicians in power would have control over as much territory and as many people as the federal government does. Every big country on earth should break down into smaller countries. When a government has control over that much territory and that many people, it is harmful to both its own citizens and the rest of the world. The only people who it's good for are the wealthy and the people in charge.

aspies can survive as the very special guy locked up in the basement in that movie "the goonies" (actually this is more like low functioning autism)

or as that guy with glasses, in the big oil tank in "waterworld"
or as the whipped kid in those families that don't know anything about neurodiversity
or as "YARRRP" from hot fuzz

they can also survive in their place of residence like galileo did
or leonardo da vinci did


ideological libertarians do not understand the majority of individuals as a whole, the best way of explaining this is that they try to find this perfect world of order along principles and rules, that does not exist, it might be nice that in the ideological world of perfect spheres, one can think of it, but it's relegated to that part of things


in real life outside of the "perfect world that you can imagine", we have an evolutionary problem, richard dawkins went about explaining why such perfect "everyone wins" things that are typically imagined and desired, cannot occur, the short answer is "psychopaths" and the long answer is "the manner by which nature operates is that whereupon a group that can profit in as long a term as they can see, will have them break ranks to do so" note that most people are emotionally biased, and I'm not even talking about libertarians this time - note that they don't have to necessarily profit, it could be a zero sum game instead, if they suspect others might be able to profit by doing this... and so begins the spiral of paranoia

so, what do you do with 98% of the world being totally unlike aspies the most perfectest libertarian demographic EVAR?

well you can do eugenics, you can open yourself up to exploitation or you could take a long confusing journey into the world of other people and get really annoyed at how dumb everyone seems all the time and take a shortcut that all the totalitarian empires have hated - liberalism


it's difficult to explain to you guys, I already had thought of the libertarian principles ages ago to some extent, but it's difficult to explain why it doesn't work in super scientific sounding way

it's because children will be children, and lord of the flies' was right, you want a libertarian society where none of this occurs but you're just confusing the end goal with the means, almost nobody operates on the pure principle of non-aggression, there is no reason to, and the reasons to do so are subject to great abuses from totalitarian minded individuals


I should also mention, rhetorically speaking with a large grain of truth to it... libertarianism wouldn't work because I'd never support it, and because I'd destroy it when it occurred, for personal gain

I mean, lots of this seems kind of pointless, but hey some people just want to watch the world burn, it's like if fire is the caveman version of a TV, the world of flames is a big screen


I've seen a few libertarians who were the ideologically consistent, and early bird libertarians completely balk at the idea of dealing with things in the here and now at all, I'm not saying that planning ahead isn't a great idea, I'm saying they simply can not act, or actively endorse actions, in the here and now, they're stuck maintaining their own lives, there are no great libertarian pushes, nothing of the sort, their actions are not street actions - unless you count the tea party and I do not think that is anywhere remotely where ideological libertarians stand


and you know why they can't? because the goals are not consistent with what it'd take to get the stuff done, maybe in a universe where nothing external to the ideology existed it'd work, but there are other factors at play and libertarianism is a small trend of it, an ideological refuge for those who felt bullied or worry about it and want everyone do follow their rules'

but you can't enforce that, those others know exactly how disconnected you are, and they are perfectly willing to take advantage of that over you if they can, unless they know you and like you

I am well aware of the fact that those with communication difficulties seek to make a society that removes reliance on the various social mores, but the rest of society will not take that in the slightest

I have always admired Leo..Da Vinci
thus allowing me to read further..
only to find your negative view of people annoying..
You obviously do not understand the power of Libertarian thinking..
America has thrived with it for over 200 years...
and we will not thrive without it..

ah, but therein lies the advantage of my knowledge of history

america has never been a libertarian nation, that aspect died when the constitution replaced the articles of confederation

check the federalist papers, and check the history of the constitution, the libertarian institutions are the ones who talk about it the most, that's where I got my information on it

(alexander hamilton isn't looked on too kindly by them)

Libertarianism would've meant that I wouldn't be able to write to you right now, because 'libertarian leaning' charter / private education systems exclude special ed kids more than the public system does. Libertarianism would mean that the folks here who can't afford private computers wouldn't access autistic community resources, because there would be no libraries. We would be much poorer as an autistic people if social democracy didn't exist to some extent - whether it's a historic mutual-aid, parochial style or one run by the government. Remember, the Internet was developed by a government agency.

I am very much, socioeconomically and politically, an anti-Libertarian. My ideas about the best possible form of government are so far outside the box I don't even think it would be constructive to elaborate, except to say that I believe in social responsibility, and I believe that governments and non profit organizations need to work together to demotivate individuals from partaking in socially irresponsible behavior. I believe kids should be educated with a strong emphasis on remembering and valuing their civic duties. Society is not a thing for the rugged individual. And society- social behavior- is much more intrinsically human, I think, than some misguided ideal of "rugged individualism."

That's my two cents.

I consider myself a libertarian conservative for the most part

Finally,they will definition anyone do not blindly worship as mental illness.