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koryna
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10 Jun 2009, 4:00 pm

I just posted my youtube video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vrSM-CwLwY

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vrSM-CwLwY[/youtube]

Just a warning, apparently it's being blocked in some countries due to copyright.

So what do you all think?



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10 Jun 2009, 8:00 pm

This is my first video with xtranormal for autism advocacy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktJlU7SQ ... annel_page


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10 Jun 2009, 8:26 pm

AWESOME! It made me smile and feel good about myself ^_^



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10 Jun 2009, 11:06 pm

AWESOME NEURODIVERSITY VIDEO KORYNA!! !

Happy ND Day too. Very well done. I'm in the Neuroscience Program (grad student) at my Univeristy. I might show your video clip :idea:


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10 Jun 2009, 11:38 pm

That's a very good video. It brings forth all the things that I've been wanting to say, over the past three years.


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11 Jun 2009, 12:26 am

Silver_Meteor: Cool video! I posted the 1st comment :D 5 stars


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11 Jun 2009, 12:40 am

Koryna, what a beautifully sparse and poignant and caring vid. i really like it and enjoyed reading and watching it.



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11 Jun 2009, 6:02 am

I'd like to allso thank you both for such nice videos. They were enjoyable, eloquent, and got the message accross, at least to someone like ME.



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12 Jun 2009, 11:30 am

I liked it, it really got the message across, the music is quite bizzare though.


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15 Jun 2009, 9:42 am

Thank you all, I'm glad I've made a video that says things that people other than myself want to say. I hope that it gets spread around and raises positive awareness.

Also, Monkey, yes, Sigur Rós can be something of an acquired taste



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26 Jun 2009, 5:17 pm

was just cleaning out my inbox and found a flame for my Neurodiversity video.

For those curious, this is what it says:

"I saw that video that you put up recently with the ridiculous thoughts in it. I don't trust anyone who tells not to focus on negative aspects. Where do you get off saying "us" and "we" like you represent all autistics when expressing your views? There is no refuting that the vast majority of your "movement" is by HFAs and aspies. Who the hell else would argue against measures that would increase mental ability, other than those who already have lots of it and want to keep their own from being distributed to others? Especially considering a lot of the super HFA have such higher aptitude than the average person. So I don't wonder what you're holding on to. I hate that selfishness.

Just cause some of you grew from LFAs to be HFAs doesn't mean growing up will solve enough of the impairments or that all on the spectrum will be that lucky. Don't pretend it's a childhood condition. Don't you dare ignore the many severely impaired adults who are chained into dependence and huge deficits of ability. Supports, accommodations, positive attitudes, and all that sappy s**t, won't enable many highly impaired autistics to sufficiently communicate or contribute to society. The problem of lack of capability to learn needs to be stopped.

I'm disgusted at you for complaining about low/high functioning labels. I detest that attempt to ignore the unfair vile reality. I loathe the idea that some would pretend things could be just and equitable, while LFAs are tied to incapability, dependence, and deprivation from many activities, while so many HFAs have the world by the balls, getting the choice of many things to do and accomplishing all kinds of things through academic and employment endeavors. I loathe the lies and phony perceptions that come out of lack of comparing one person to another. It's not harmful to self-esteem. The reality of being low-functioning hurts self-esteem. No lie and patronization will cover that up. Nobody is nuts enough to think that comparing themselves to others is needless. There should be no developing and growing separately. It should be done together.

Competition and its motivation will not stop until the conditions that make it necessary stop, which are the unequal and private distribution of mental capacity. It's not about competing to be worth anything. It's not enough that all are worth the same. I don't think you smart poindexter creeps are worth more. Your abilities are worth a lot for use but the individuals themselves who have them aren't extra worthwhile for inheriting them through conditions that were out of their control, that they didn't work to get. Being worth something doesn't stop the pain that comes from being deprived of the dignity of independence and having basic skills, and from seeing all the goodies and privileges of high intellectual ability go to someone else. Having someone remind one of having value isn't going to stop the vile way it feels to have to be dependent on others, and be inevitably precluded from many activities others get to do.

Why should those MANY low-functioning indivduals put up with your BS, trying so hard with lots of exertion to do/learn basic tasks, while not even succeeding in learning/doing all of them enough of the time, with minimal hope of doing a lot besides that, while the super high-functioning end up having to put hardly any effort at all into basic tasks and get to have an easy time working on intellectual pursuits and other abilities? If those LFA were to have more abiilties brought to them, besides what little they may get as they grow up and develop, think of how much total accomplishment would go up for the spectrum as a whole. Think of how much more time they would and could use to work on tasks/learning and how much more they could come up with using that time, if they had a much better chance at getting ahead with such things, if they could appropriate a large deal more in proportion to their exertion.

I want the future to deal with the uneven distribution of ability within the spectrum to make it equal. I want the determinants of cognitive functioning to be identified to distinguish which ones cause low-functionality and which ones cause the huge mental gifts of high-functionality. I want there to be a cure rigorously pursued to make it possible to alter the aspects of individuals' brains that determine functioning level/ability, using methods to augment mental capacity, using the determinants of functioning that cause high mental capacity in some, and ridding aspects of brains that are known to decrease mental capacity. That's what I'd like to see happen to make everyone on the spectrum have sufficient ability. I don't think all involved in the issue agree on what the definition of cure is. But bashing cure outright isn't acceptable and it isn't honest either.

Cure isn't about eliminating a group of individuals, or about "intolerance" of diversity, or making someone a different person. I refuse to sit back while you all try to obfuscate the issue with those concerns. I don't see how it can't be obvious that guaranteeing ability is what is mostly intended about cure by most involved in the issue.. I don't hope to leave any doubt that I indulge in my own extreme envy against many who are smarter/extra capable than me and that I endorse and don't disapprove of such sentiment. I'm someone who is severely mentally impaired myself, so I have an intense hate for the subjugation that the people you defend bring on those who are on the bottom of the hierarchy to keep them down."


hmmmm, this sounds a lot like my troll nutsndoltz from my Cure video. The sender's info says his name is "Billy". I think that I'm going to look up the email account....

Edit: oh hey, looks like this guy has popped up on left brain/right brain. He goes by the username "kyngdingxx".



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26 Jun 2009, 5:35 pm

For somebody who says he he is severly mentally impaired, he makes a pretty cogent and compelling argument. I can see his point of view. He worries that too ardent an embrace of neurodiversity will morph into not finding ways to help people who are really, really suffering because of autism. I think it's a legitimate fear. I embrace neurodiversity too. But I can see how it could look from the severly impaired end. It could look like "don't cure me because I'm brilliant and quirky and normal is overrated and also don't cure that guy who feels like spikes are going through his ears every time he hears a loud noise because...normal is overrated". I know that's not what neurodiversity means, but I can see where his fear is coming from.



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26 Jun 2009, 5:39 pm

yeah, I can understand how people can get that feeling about Neurodiversity.

Ironic, I made this video to try and educate those fears that we're not all happy-happy "We're all-okay just as we are, without help". Trying to help people understand that we're not against accommodations and supports, just against the idea of cure, that there's something "wrong" with us to be fixed.


Guess I'm going to have to make another video....



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26 Jun 2009, 10:16 pm

I think you might want to edit your video. I didn't watch it all the way through because the points took too long to develop. For instance, you over-explain neurodiversity and then you over explain diversity. Who is your target audience? I think defining that would help a lot.



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01 Jul 2009, 12:46 pm

koryna,
am in the group he's wrongly representing [lfa],and think nothing of that crap he said and also think should go out there and do anything that want in a video if that is what believe,that is what youtube is for-this baiter can go and make his own instead of ranting in someones messages.
am also neither feel offended or oppressed or bad because there's people better functioning out there,thats life-there's always going to someone better or worse off,what am don't like is being spoken for in such a way-he speak for self,not everyone.

maybe this user really is severely mentally impaired,guessing add/adhd if he really is,or a mental health impairment,but that does not mean it's the same life as for someone with a different condition.
am doubt it is true though,its classic baiting,state have got a condition or something similar to make others think theyve got a right to rant,have had it done before on own makaton video.
No longer a site for innocent video makers,but more a trolls playground.


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03 Jul 2009, 6:48 pm

koryna: Ouch! I'm sorry that he feels so strongly against what you made - still, you ought to be proud of your video.

I'm sure you already know this......but some people can be really insensitive! Seems as if he just picked you for his rant. Sigh. Cannot ever please everyone. With my video, for ex, I've had some weird responses but just ignore.

I suppose Neurodiveristy can be a contentious topic, but it shouldn't in that Neurodiversity means just as stated: To apppreciate ALL who are Autistic. Neurodiversity isn't meant hurt, but the contrary; the appreciate and encourage. That's the message.

Lab Pet gave you 5 stars * * * * *


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