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14 Jul 2009, 7:15 am

http://freegary.org.uk/

This blog is by a man who has Asperger's Syndrome who has served his penalty in England and who is being considered for extradition to America. His "crimes" seem related to his problems with AS. This blog was sent to me on Facebook by someone seeking supporters for his cause.


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15 Jul 2009, 3:13 pm

Tsssk. Maybe he wouldn't have been cought as easily if he hadn't left helpful hints for the Americans on how to tighten up their security.

Don't extridite him. Give him a job in the service of Her Majesty, hacking into other countries systems. If that's the quality of Americas system, the others should be a doddle.

Wasn't he using a piece of software he'd downloaded anyway, i.e. he was a Script Kiddie. The Americans are just embarressed.



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19 Jul 2009, 2:40 pm

From what I have heard on the news and stuff, he was just looking for information. Besides whether this is true or not, how could a regular (well AS) guy get onto secret information? That says more about America's security system than him. Maybe he was just testing their systems and his 'taunting hints' were actually truthful. Extraditing him is ridiculous. He is British, the crime happened in Britain therefore he should be tried and punished here. Knowing our legal system, he'd get off with a fine! I hope he gets freed.


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20 Jul 2009, 4:45 am

extraditing innocent people for looking at things that the government shouldnt hide from them?, now where have i heard that before? :scratch: , hmmm, inocent people.... :scratch: defying a harsh government, *cough hitler*, *cough stalin *


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20 Jul 2009, 5:24 am

I think he should get a medal and go to the US of A as a tourist or the new head of the pentagon regardless of AS.

I bet the same bastards who do PR for the persecution-wanabes are the same ones promoting voiding human rights in favor of keeping intellectual property for corporations.

In reality ? There is almost nothing I can do outside the internet or before hanging out on a plane (pretty cool if I had excess $$$ to fly around) and overall theres not much momentum so he might get jailed.



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20 Jul 2009, 10:37 pm

f**k this dumbass. I don't care if he didn't have malicious intent, or if his obsession made him curious enough to do it. Break and enter is still break and enter whether you broke into someone's house to rob it or to check out the inside of the house outta curiosity. Same s**t applies to computer hacking.



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31 Jul 2009, 6:21 am

I've just read that he has lost his extradition appeal.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8177561.stm



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31 Jul 2009, 8:00 am

He broke the law and if he can't do the time then don't do the crime. It is that simple. I would be surprised if Obama parodies him but he should still pay the fines and apologize fro his actions. If he hack into the CIA system then the law is the law.


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31 Jul 2009, 10:15 am

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/21/20090731/tu ... 23e80.html
I don't like that they always put 'suffers' from for every last thing.
I don't suffer from AS, i love having it!


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31 Jul 2009, 3:20 pm

I was watching the news earlier today, and they were interviewing the hacker's mum and as she was talking about it a bus went past with a poster on it that said "aliens in the attic" :lmao:
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31 Jul 2009, 4:03 pm

AceOfSpades wrote:
f**k this dumbass. I don't care if he didn't have malicious intent, or if his obsession made him curious enough to do it. Break and enter is still break and enter whether you broke into someone's house to rob it or to check out the inside of the house outta curiosity. Same sh** applies to computer hacking.
It's very convenient that he got his dx after he got in this legal hot water. Poor little Gary "Box of rocks" McKinnon didn't realize that it's not legal to break into other peoples computers. I wonder if he has the same misapprehension about shoplifting, auto theft etc.? To believe that aspies are competent to know right from wrong is a ridiculous concept.



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31 Jul 2009, 5:07 pm

velodog wrote:
AceOfSpades wrote:
f**k this dumbass. I don't care if he didn't have malicious intent, or if his obsession made him curious enough to do it. Break and enter is still break and enter whether you broke into someone's house to rob it or to check out the inside of the house outta curiosity. Same sh** applies to computer hacking.
It's very convenient that he got his dx after he got in this legal hot water. Poor little Gary "Box of rocks" McKinnon didn't realize that it's not legal to break into other peoples computers. I wonder if he has the same misapprehension about shoplifting, auto theft etc.? To believe that aspies are competent to know right from wrong is a ridiculous concept.


velodog, this is what I've been trying to tell my family at the moment. I keep saying he knows right from wrong and he's just playing the aspie card to be let off, thankfully it didn't work. My mum's like "noooo he was obsessed with UFOS that's what driven it blah blah, you can't just compare him to yourself he might be severe!!" If I was in trouble with the law I wouldn't say "BAWWWW you can't send me to jail I'm speshul!! !" I'd take the punishent I was given, I know it's cliche but if you can't to the time don't do the crime.


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31 Jul 2009, 7:44 pm

Whether he would play the Asperger's card or not is of no significance.
Whether he broke the law or not is also of no significance.
What this guy did didn't harm a living soul, and if you don't harm anyone then you shouldn't be punished.

I am infuriated with our spineless government for giving up all extradition laws to the US.

f**k the law in this case, and f**k anyone who believes that Gary Mckinnon deserves imprisonment for something so trivial. No harm, no crime.


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31 Jul 2009, 7:48 pm

Whoever is in charge of security for the computers he broke into should be jailed. What an epic fail that they were running unsecured Windows boxes to store sensitive national security information.


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31 Jul 2009, 8:05 pm

MONKEY wrote:
velodog wrote:
AceOfSpades wrote:
f**k this dumbass. I don't care if he didn't have malicious intent, or if his obsession made him curious enough to do it. Break and enter is still break and enter whether you broke into someone's house to rob it or to check out the inside of the house outta curiosity. Same sh** applies to computer hacking.
It's very convenient that he got his dx after he got in this legal hot water. Poor little Gary "Box of rocks" McKinnon didn't realize that it's not legal to break into other peoples computers. I wonder if he has the same misapprehension about shoplifting, auto theft etc.? To believe that aspies are competent to know right from wrong is a ridiculous concept.


velodog, this is what I've been trying to tell my family at the moment. I keep saying he knows right from wrong and he's just playing the aspie card to be let off, thankfully it didn't work. My mum's like "noooo he was obsessed with UFOS that's what driven it blah blah, you can't just compare him to yourself he might be severe!!" If I was in trouble with the law I wouldn't say "BAWWWW you can't send me to jail I'm speshul!! !" I'd take the punishent I was given, I know it's cliche but if you can't to the time don't do the crime.


Obviously he knew right from wrong, he just didnt expect 3 UK life sentences and extradition to the USA for just accessing government data and kindly pointing out the flaws in their system, maybe a fine, slap on the wrist or a ban from accessing the web. BUT no it had to be up to 70 YEARS!! !(would you have expected 70 years), if he knew this would be the consequence he would definitely have had second thoughts, in my eyes he should be rewarded not prisoned.

The aspie card what is that? he didnt even know he had aspergers up until recently

Why is it that your judging a man you don't even know as been malicious and evil, and somehow think he's creating a bad stereotype for aspergers and that we all hate him when we don't, the media's creating a bad stereotype of aspergers but thats just THE MEDIA. This man has done nothing to harm anyone apart from the crazy american governments plans at making us believe in flying saucers.

In reality im sure he's a nice guy, >>>>>> don't judge people you don't know <<<<<<



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31 Jul 2009, 8:17 pm

Aspie123 wrote:
MONKEY wrote:
velodog wrote:
AceOfSpades wrote:
f**k this dumbass. I don't care if he didn't have malicious intent, or if his obsession made him curious enough to do it. Break and enter is still break and enter whether you broke into someone's house to rob it or to check out the inside of the house outta curiosity. Same sh** applies to computer hacking.
It's very convenient that he got his dx after he got in this legal hot water. Poor little Gary "Box of rocks" McKinnon didn't realize that it's not legal to break into other peoples computers. I wonder if he has the same misapprehension about shoplifting, auto theft etc.? To believe that aspies are competent to know right from wrong is a ridiculous concept.


velodog, this is what I've been trying to tell my family at the moment. I keep saying he knows right from wrong and he's just playing the aspie card to be let off, thankfully it didn't work. My mum's like "noooo he was obsessed with UFOS that's what driven it blah blah, you can't just compare him to yourself he might be severe!!" If I was in trouble with the law I wouldn't say "BAWWWW you can't send me to jail I'm speshul!! !" I'd take the punishent I was given, I know it's cliche but if you can't to the time don't do the crime.


Obviously he knew right from wrong, he just didnt expect 3 UK life sentences and extradition to the USA for just accessing government data and kindly pointing out the flaws in their system, maybe a fine, slap on the wrist or a ban from accessing the web. BUT no it had to be up to 70 YEARS!! !, if he knew this would be the consequence he would definitely have had second thoughts, in my eyes he should be rewarded not prisoned.

Why is it that your judging a man you don't even know as been malicious and evil, and somehow think he's creating a bad stereotype for aspergers and that we all hate him when we don't, the media's creating a bad stereotype of aspergers but thats just THE MEDIA. This man has done nothing to harm anyone apart from the crazy american governments plans at making us believe in flying saucers.

In reality im sure he's a nice guy, >>>>>> don't judge people you don't know <<<<<<


The problem is that he did the hacking during 2001-2002. Also there have been U.S. citizens extricated to the U.K. for crimes against in the U.K. The law is the law so even with AS he did a crime. Giving him special treatment will cause other hackers outside the U.S. to get the same treatment. If he clearly knew it would get him in trouble for hacking the Pentagon. Why didn't he stop his hacking or even never do the hacking in the first place?


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