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29 Jan 2010, 11:47 am

Sometimes when I read some of things she has quoted, I sense hostility lurking beneath her words. Do you?



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29 Jan 2010, 11:48 am

No, I think she's passionate about what she cares about but I pick up on no hidden agenda.


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29 Jan 2010, 12:15 pm

Not from what I've seen so far. She has a direct manner and tone that some might interpret as lacking a certain fluff, but that's OK.


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29 Jan 2010, 2:40 pm

hm. no. just the opposite, in fact. she seems so positive to me---but i haven't read everything she's written. (wondering what quotes strike you as angry, though.)



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29 Jan 2010, 2:44 pm

I think that she is OK, I do not think that she has been writing anything nasty.

Rather than just letting the original poster try to paint her with a "tar brush", I would like to see a quote from the OP to back up his or her suggestion that TG seems to be hostile or angry.

If the OP can not find the quote to back up their point of view then I think it is an unreasonable comment about Temple.


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29 Jan 2010, 2:54 pm

She is only being honest or blunt, isn't that your typical aspie trait,



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29 Jan 2010, 3:02 pm

I guess that's one of the hazards with going public. People will pick you apart with a fine tooth comb.



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30 Jan 2010, 4:28 am

I have never heard Ms Grandin speak, have read only a single abstract from her published books (so far as a I know), I may have read something either written by or about (and quite potentially quoting) her, but I cannot recall any particular quote (in fact as detailed, I am not even sure if the article was written by or about her).

With respect to the abstract from a published book, I did not notice or sense or hostility or anger or such, but it's a very small sample size so it's no evidence against a claim that there is sometimes underlying hostility to the words. That being the case if someone were to present some kind of evidence that there were such hostility (perhaps as another poster suggested by sharing the quotes that have led them to their conclusion), I would be entirely open minded about that. In the absence of any such presentation of evidence, I will carry on just as before, since I know no more now about the subject than I did before I opened the thread.



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30 Jan 2010, 7:18 pm

I've only ever heard her speak in youtube clips :) & read some of her stuff. She just seems blunt & too the point... like a true aspie :D.


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31 Jan 2010, 11:51 am

Her inflection and rhythm is very awkward - an autistic characteristic. It takes a while to get used to.

Her inflection goes way up at the end of a sentence.



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02 Feb 2010, 1:49 am

I have to make a confession. I have never seen or heard Temple speak and I have never (that I know of) read anything she has written. I have read other speak about her and quote her. So I cannot say whether or not there is any hostility there. It might be passion for the subject the person is misinterpreting :)

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02 Feb 2010, 9:23 am

Greshym_Shorkan wrote:
Sometimes when I read some of things she has quoted, I sense hostility lurking beneath her words. Do you?

I assume you mis-worded this, and you mean "quotes from her", not "things she has quoted".

I cannot think of a single thing she has been quoted as saying that gives any hint of what you are attributing to her.

I've watched a documentary on her, where she voiced many opinions, none of which were as you describe. I'm looking forward to seeing the HBO film - when I can figure out how to see it.

I've read "Animals in Translation", which is a fine book, although I might disagree with one or two of her remarks therein.

I've also seen a multitude of other quotes and clips of hers.

My question is that same as that of others on here: "Where is your example of such a quote?"


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02 Feb 2010, 9:52 am

same for me, no hostility noticed on anything i've read/heard from Temple Grandin.
Her voice has a hard tone perhaps, but I think that of a lot of people with an American accent.

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I'm looking forward to seeing the HBO film - when I can figure out how to see it


yeah, me too (but I don't know what HBO means, I heard they were making a film about her life though and assume that is what you are talking about.)



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02 Feb 2010, 9:52 am

No not at all. A valid criticism of her is she generalises about people on the spectrum, which is clearly based on her experiences alone, but as others have pointed out this can be symptomatic.



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03 Feb 2010, 9:19 am

lemon wrote:
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I'm looking forward to seeing the HBO film - when I can figure out how to see it


yeah, me too (but I don't know what HBO means, I heard they were making a film about her life though and assume that is what you are talking about.)

HBO = Home Box Office
Film title = Temple Grandin (I think)
Release date = Feb 6th
Availability = live in US and subscribe to HBO channel?


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03 Feb 2010, 11:35 am

Peko wrote:
I've only ever heard her speak in youtube clips :) & read some of her stuff. She just seems blunt & too the point... like a true aspie :D.


Same. I saw a BBC documentary on her some years ago.