High school kid shot 5 times by SC police had autism: report

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12 Feb 2010, 12:57 am

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12 Feb 2010, 1:14 am

Quick question- why is it that this kid having autism was a more important detail to mention rather than why he stabbed a security guard in the first place? I don't see how autism is even relevant to this story without that bit of information.



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12 Feb 2010, 4:17 am

Seconeded, I don't see why his AS is relivent. He stabbed someone, no excuse for that.



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12 Feb 2010, 4:25 am

I just copied and pasted the headline. It seemed appropriate, didn't expect to get attacked for it.

I just thought it was interesting. I assume you're one of the extremists, who believe any method is justified. The point is not that the kid has AS, it's that the cop found it necessary to shoot him 5 times. He was a coward. He could have restrained him. I do believe it necessary to mention he had AS. There could be more to it than the cop or school will admit. The point is, the cop used brutal force when not really necessary. I think you missed the point. Instead you are more concerned with the thought of a stigma being attached to AS.


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12 Feb 2010, 4:28 am

Why is it that when one person says something, everyone else have to agree.


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12 Feb 2010, 4:35 am

I hate it when there is never the full story. Why did he do it?



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12 Feb 2010, 7:01 am

This looks like a situation where he should have had and used a taser. Most of the news stories I see involving tasers are abusive uses against unarmed people or even children. This is one situation where a taser would have been the best choice.



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12 Feb 2010, 12:28 pm

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This looks like a situation where he should have had and used a taser. Most of the news stories I see involving tasers are abusive uses against unarmed people or even children. This is one situation where a taser would have been the best choice.


I agree


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12 Feb 2010, 12:42 pm

I hope that this isn't the beginning of a new trend. We all know what that cop was thinking. "Ewe...he's autistic...let's kill him!"


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12 Feb 2010, 1:00 pm

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He stabbed someone, no excuse for that.

Exactly.



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12 Feb 2010, 1:49 pm

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I hope that this isn't the beginning of a new trend. We all know what that cop was thinking. "Ewe...he's autistic...let's kill him!"


Did you miss the part where the cop had been stabbed several times? A far more plausible thought to be going through his head is "AAAAAAHHHHHHHH He's killing me!!" The cop had to stop the attack somehow. But I think he could have stopped it without killing the kid. Such as by using a taser.



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12 Feb 2010, 3:39 pm

There is no excuse for stabbing someone, but non deadly force could have been used. Others have mentioned the use of a taser, and a bilee club would have also been effective. Aren't the police trained in martial arts, specifically defensive things such as disarming an attacker? Also, where exactly do they have cops in schools? I've never noticed them being there.


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12 Feb 2010, 8:07 pm

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There is no excuse for stabbing someone, but non deadly force could have been used. Others have mentioned the use of a taser, and a bilee club would have also been effective. Aren't the police trained in martial arts, specifically defensive things such as disarming an attacker? Also, where exactly do they have cops in schools? I've never noticed them being there.


I went to a very small school and we had a cop there. They are normally in public high schools.


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12 Feb 2010, 8:37 pm

nodice1996 wrote:
There is no excuse for stabbing someone, but non deadly force could have been used. Others have mentioned the use of a taser, and a bilee club would have also been effective. Aren't the police trained in martial arts, specifically defensive things such as disarming an attacker? Also, where exactly do they have cops in schools? I've never noticed them being there.


There was a very noticeable police presence in my school. the assistant principal once told an officer to "take me down" if I made a break for the door, which I explained I had no intention of doing.



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12 Feb 2010, 10:01 pm

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I just thought it was interesting. I assume you're one of the extremists, who believe any method is justified. The point is not that the kid has AS, it's that the cop found it necessary to shoot him 5 times. He was a coward. He could have restrained him.


I didn't see in the news article how badly injured the officer was after being stabbed, but I think it's rather naive to believe that someone that had been stabbed should have used non-lethal force (or restraints) on the person stabbing them. People die from stab wounds. If I was an officer in charge of protecting students and faculty at a school, I'd err on the side of caution and kill the attacker before he had a chance to go injure or kill someone else.

Also - standard firearms training indicates that you should never point your weapon at something you don't intend to kill. It doesn't matter how many bullets are fired - once the situation occurred, the officer could have emptied his weapon into the attacker and it doesn't really matter. The intent at that point is to kill.



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13 Feb 2010, 1:36 pm

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Also - standard firearms training indicates that you should never point your weapon at something you don't intend to kill. It doesn't matter how many bullets are fired - once the situation occurred, the officer could have emptied his weapon into the attacker and it doesn't really matter. The intent at that point is to kill.


Although I'm not on the force, the husband of one of my friends is and that's just not true. Police draw their guns on people all the time with no intention of killing them but rather with the intention of getting them to stop. Killing them is a last resort, not the purpose of pulling the gun. The purpose of pulling the gun is to get the person to voluntarily stop and disarm themselves. It doesn't always work out that way but police do not intend to kill every person they draw a gun on.