Terms for people who wish to cure or abort us

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I once heard someone use the word "curebie" for them but that sounds rather childish. I think neurotypical supremacist is a good word for them because it is accurate. They think they are better than us and that they should rule over us. They want to take away our rights. That's what supremacists do. Anyone have alternate ideas?

There are autistics who think we are better than neurotypicals. Supremacist come in all sizes, shapes, colors and textures.

I think the best way to oppose the neurologically biased is to promote neurodiversity.

I think "misguided" or "well-intentioned" would apply. And you know which road is paved with good intentions...

I know it might feel like they should rule over us. And that they want to take our rights. But isn't that what people do all around the world? I think there is always a portion of society who feels another portion is threatening to stop the population from growing like they expected it would.

But you know, I think it's really important that we respect, care for, understand and love ourselves and one another, and that we show people that these conditions don't mean that we are ruining the world. We are simply diversifying it, like everybody is. Nobody's gonna come up and go "Ahhwww that's sad!": WE have to do this. And for those among us who can't, we have to do it even more.

I think 'Those Who Don't Understand' is more accurated (Nonderstander? ). Not as easy to push out as Curebie, but I think this is very true. And also, they are not ruling over us. If there's anything we should keep in mind here is that Temple Grandin is one of us, and she has made a HUGE difference in the academic field of animal behavior and psychology and, as I see it, the way the world looks at her condition. Also (probably): Einstein?

Fortunately, not all NTs are bad or want to rule you or take away your rights. Lots of great NT posters right here on this site, helping others with advice.

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We already have a fantastic word for people who think only their kind has the right to exist: Nazi.

This is not for all NTs, only those who think they're better than us and want to "cure" or abort us

Please differentiate, not everyone who wants a "cure" is a Nazi. If people think we need a cure, we need to peacefully explain why we don't.

Not all people pro-cure are Nazis, they're mostly ignorant I guess. We shouldn't put them in the same group as the Devil Speaks (in autism's name).

QFT.


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I am of so many minds about this, I must seem schizophrenic. I like myself, but I would like to know what the NTs know that I don't. As a mother with a daughter with Autism plus, I have had to restrict her freedoms so she doesn't inadvertently kill herself. I don't like that she lives behind an alarmed gate, but going out at 3 am without shoes and knocking on a random door and grunting at whoever answered could have had a much worse outcome than being locked in a rubber room while the police tried to figure out who she was. I have had household furnishings destroyed because someone thought they should take her orange peel away and later I get to complain at the caregiver, "LET her eat the orange peel! If it's not poisonous, for God's Sake, let her eat whatever she wants!" When I'm with her in public, I can let her "be strange", but I can't let her take people's babies.

Do I want a cure for her? You betcha. Do I want a cure for me? Kinda, sorta, a little bit, but I don't want to lose me. I also don't want to lose my daughter's sense of humor.

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NTzi?

This is the point I have tried to make in other threads---we need to promote neurodiversity.

I have had a small share of posts speaking against Autism Speaks, but my philosophy is that since they appear to ignore our voice, then we should ignore them too. We need to operate as a positive voice in promoting our voices. True, there are several things that many of us don't agree with that they do, but are they going to change? Let's exert our energy in pushing forth our voice and promoting neurodiversity. I adhere to this belief in regards to neurodiversity---the world needs people on the autism spectrum, and the world needs people who are NT. We need each other. If the world existed only of autistic spectrum people, or NT people, then we would be in sorry shape. Each of our groups has strengths and challenges. The thing we must promote is tolerance of each other so that the world may benefit from the diversity that we all have to offer.

I think Autism Speaks is more concerned with "eliminating" LFA, not necessarily Asperger's people. Come to think of it, I don't think I've ever heard them mention anything publicly about anything other than LFA. If they have mentioned "curing" Asperger's, please correct me.

But they never specify exactly what form of autism they're on about, they just generlise "autism" to mean "ret*d who can't do anything for the world but bring misery" so they make it "ret*d who can't do anything for the world but who I'll exploit to get a fat salary".

I don't know where they imply, "ret*d who can't do anything for the world but bring misery" You may be inferring incorrectly.
The last ad I saw (April 2009) cited the 1 in 155 statisitc, so I assume they are including us. Their message does seem to suggest that autism is a tragedy. It is an emotional appeal designed to generate donations to fund research. Emotional appeals work better for that sort of thing than intellectual appeals. Most people seem to be more motivated by feeling than thinking, aspie & NT alike.
I think our message should be, "Autism is not a tragedy, ignorance is a tragedy." What will you do this April to spread this message?

They do imply that, in everything they say about autism. They make it this massive tragedy, this massive disease that's worse than cancer. It's a horrible misrepresentation, made even worse if they're trying to claim that us Aspies are like that despite evidence that Bill Gates might even have Asperger's.

The research they fund is mostly for prenatal testing, which in my opinion is genocide. Genocide, by the the way, is defined as wiping out a whole group of people. We're a group of people, and prenatal testing will wipe us out.

Autism is not a tragedy, ignorance is the tragedy - that's a good message. I'm lucky that here in the UK, that's the message that's conveyed by the main autism charity, the National Autistic Society. I plan to donate money to them when I begin to get a decent income.

Autism can be a tragedy, at least to over 50% of the families who have a child with autism, it can destroy the family as a whole.