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30 Mar 2010, 5:29 pm

They want us to change for them. Hypocrytes!



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30 Mar 2010, 7:30 pm

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They want us to change for them. Hypocrytes!

"They" is a pretty wide target for that accusation.


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31 Mar 2010, 3:26 am

Why should we change for the deaf?
Why should be change for the blind?
Why should we change for people who are in wheelchairs?

Oh boy lets not accommodate them. Let's get rid of all the ramps and the canes and the service animals and the sign language and braille. Lets get rid of the special phones too and the flashes for the rooms and the special thing for the blind to use when they go online. Why should we change for them? They must do it our way.



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02 Apr 2010, 6:14 am

If NT's don't want to change for us then why should we change for them?

Good posts. I'm kind of tired but I think I got the gist of them.


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02 Apr 2010, 8:14 am

I have one answer to them. They are the reason for our existence so they either learn to accept us or else? It's the same with other disabilities. You make your bed and thus you will lie on it!



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02 Apr 2010, 9:20 am

League_Girl wrote:
Why should we change for the deaf?
Why should be change for the blind?
Why should we change for people who are in wheelchairs?

Oh boy lets not accommodate them. Let's get rid of all the ramps and the canes and the service animals and the sign language and braille. Lets get rid of the special phones too and the flashes for the rooms and the special thing for the blind to use when they go online. Why should we change for them? They must do it our way.


I just looked at your profile. You're spokane_girl. I didn't even know that.



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02 Apr 2010, 9:28 am

pensieve wrote:
If NT's don't want to change for us then why should we change for them?

Good posts. I'm kind of tired but I think I got the gist of them.


Pensieve, please continue to read my whole blog if you do not mind. Somehow, I've come up with a new philosophical system.



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02 Apr 2010, 9:32 am

cubedemon6073 wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
Why should we change for the deaf?
Why should be change for the blind?
Why should we change for people who are in wheelchairs?

Oh boy lets not accommodate them. Let's get rid of all the ramps and the canes and the service animals and the sign language and braille. Lets get rid of the special phones too and the flashes for the rooms and the special thing for the blind to use when they go online. Why should we change for them? They must do it our way.


I just looked at your profile. You're spokane_girl. I didn't even know that.



I hope you knew I was being sarcastic.



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02 Apr 2010, 2:10 pm

If they expect us to change for them, the majority (most people we meet), they should be able to change for a minority. After all, they are the ones considered the wellfunctioning part.
Yet they expect us to do something they wouldn't like to themselves even to a lesser degree than we have to.

(I only write "they" and "we" for the convenience.)

Good example with the deaf and blind etc.



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02 Apr 2010, 2:42 pm

League_Girl wrote:
cubedemon6073 wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
Why should we change for the deaf?
Why should be change for the blind?
Why should we change for people who are in wheelchairs?

Oh boy lets not accommodate them. Let's get rid of all the ramps and the canes and the service animals and the sign language and braille. Lets get rid of the special phones too and the flashes for the rooms and the special thing for the blind to use when they go online. Why should we change for them? They must do it our way.


I just looked at your profile. You're spokane_girl. I didn't even know that.



I hope you knew I was being sarcastic.


Yes, I know.



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04 Apr 2010, 11:12 pm

AnnePande wrote:
If they expect us to change for them, the majority (most people we meet), they should be able to change for a minority. After all, they are the ones considered the wellfunctioning part.
Yet they expect us to do something they wouldn't like to themselves even to a lesser degree than we have to.

(I only write "they" and "we" for the convenience.)

Good example with the deaf and blind etc.


I guess that's the only example available. But the difference is that being deaf and/or blind is something NT people can understand the difference in functioning for. Albeit in a limited way. Trying to explain how perception and thinking is quite different inherently, is a bit harder to illustrate...

I'd just say (with a hint of sarcasm) "I've already been changing myself for the rest of you for years: I've been changing my regular tendency to want to throttle the living daylights out of you when you abuse me for being who I am, or for something I never realised I did, or when you expected me to be able to do something I couldn't, or when I had to make extra effort to fit your rules and didn't get recognition or was even criticised. I think I deserve some payback, but I'm staying reasonable because I'm actually a nice person and realise nothing's perfect. How's about the rest of you then, what's so hard about it for YOU?"


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05 Apr 2010, 2:37 pm

No one needs to change.. People only need to learn to accept.
Ok, I know.. that's really cliché. But it's still the truth.

Some information about ASD should be taught in primary school and later on repeated with more detail in highschool.
There is no way everyone of the current generation NT's will have time to try and understand ASD. We have to make sure that the younger generation grows up with more knowledge and more tolerance.



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08 Apr 2010, 11:40 pm

I'm not changing for anybody. I think I'll listen to The Kinks, now. I knew it. NTs are all the same.


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09 Apr 2010, 12:27 am

CockneyRebel wrote:
NTs are all the same.

That's just as false and inaccurate as the statement "Aspies are all the same."


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09 Apr 2010, 5:45 am

pat2rome wrote:
CockneyRebel wrote:
NTs are all the same.

That's just as false and inaccurate as the statement "Aspies are all the same."


And very bigotry.